XL COD4 Gametypes: Poll and Discussion

[KONSPIRACY]

As you all know, MatchBox360 always listens to the gaming community before making decisions with regards to our rules for both online and XL tournaments.

Further to the current online MatchBox360 Call of Duty 4 4v4, we would like your feedback on the gametypes and rules being used before we announce the settings to be used at the forthcoming MatchBox360 XL on 28-30th November.

Despite the request for Sabotage to be included, it now appears that this gametype is proving to be not so popular, and as such we'd like you to vote in the poll and post your opinions.

Please vote in the poll and leave as much constructive feedback as possible in this thread so we can ensure that we provide you with the best possible COD4 tournament at XL.

Thanks in advance :cool:

[SqR LukeJS]

S&D and Domination.

[SqR Sowersby]

S&D and Domo i voted. The reason is because sabotage can sometimes go on for a very long time and be a draw, as one of our rounds it took almost 1 hour to fininsh a sabotage round. Not only is this too long and would affect the schedule for XL, but this gametype 80% of the time goes onto sudden death which is just stupid.

S&D and Domo only would be great as those 2 gametypes are so much better than every other :cool:...

[Tubez]

Search and Destroy and Domination. If you are going to do best out of three, do the following...

Search and Destroy - Random Map - Best of 5 usual rules apply
Domination - Random Map - Play both spawns and 10 minutes on each spawn (Add both scores together)
Search and Destroy - Random Map - Best of 5 usual rules apply

All Maps should have the 2 Mp5 rule per team

[KONSPIRACY]

@ Sowersby - sudden death doesnt even come into the equation with our online or XL rules. What rules have you been playing?!

@ Tubez - thats exactly what I was thinking.

[xellenta]

As people have said before, they best way to do it IMO is:

1st map - S&D
2nd map - Domination
3rd map - Sabotage

[xI Reverend Ix]

As people have said before, they best way to do it IMO is:

1st map - S&D
2nd map - Domination
3rd map - Sabotage

I agree it might mix it up a bit that way and have more balance between between the lesser teams...
Maybe.

But i'm almost certain that it will make it more interesting and give the game a new lease of life for LAN.

[KONSPIRACY]

The point of this thread is that Sabotage is proving to take a long time in the online tournament and may not be suitable for LAN.

[iG DevilZ]

SnD and DOM only for me

Sabo is just terrible spawns are faulty at least on DOM you have some sort of control on spawns, it can also last forever if its with two good SABO teams meet, what that tubez guy said would be really good.

[Gunshy]

SnD and dom. what tubez said i agree with. sabo is just a terrible gametype tbh i thought it was ok at first but spawns are just terrible and in general its not fun to play at ALL.

[iD Rumsey]

think it should still be the 2v2 gametype but tbh i am not to fussed with or without it. i can see the problems and i do understand peoples concerns. i just like mixing the game up but thats probs not a good enough excuse

[Kylep99]

Sabo should be off both 4v4 and 2v2. 2v2 Domination best of three, each round 5 minutes long, play both spawns on each map add the scores together to get the winner of that map, for the third map if your so worried about time have it 2 and half minutes each round, I guarantee that 2v2 sabotage at LAN will take the same amount of time as 2v2 Domo with the settings I said there. Ever Round I have played on the matchbox360 2v2 Sabo ends with every round being Sudden Death becoz the spawns are absolute **** on Sabo, 2V2 DOMINATION!!!!

[KONSPIRACY]

We will not be doing 2v2 Domination! lmao :D

[DopedGoat]

Sabo decider's a must no? Some teams are good at S&D and bad at Domo, vice versa. Sabo is a nice decider.

[KONSPIRACY]

Not really when its proving to be such a bad gametype for 4v4. If we remove Sabo and replace with S&D then it will simply mean 2 games of S&D and 2 rounds of Domination so would still find the best teams on multi gametypes whilst remaining competitive.

edit:
not sure why some ppl are commenting about sudden death in the online Sabotage games as it shouldnt come into affect with the current settings.

[StompingFreak]

SnD and Dom for lan for me. Plus it would be fun to watch.

[iD Rumsey]

well if its just s&d and dom why not when it goes to a decider flip a coin as then its fair as soem teams are better at dom than s&d and visa versa. this way its fair and just let the home team decide on heads or tails. (at lan of course)

[xI Reverend Ix]

A coin is always good.

[Tangoo]

S&D and dom for the 4v4 and I'd prefer FFA instead of a 2v2. Done my fair share of doubles games and just my opinion that i dont like them all that much in any gamemode

[Tubez]

Well it is defientely a 2v2 so there is no point even debating the 2v2/ffa. I can't see that being anything other than sabotage.
2 Questions I've got to you, Kon..
1. Will the 2v2 be straight knockout or will there be a losers braket?
2. If the 4v4 is S&D, Domo, S&D in the knockout rounds, will the final therefore be S&D, Domo, S&D, Domo, S&D?

[CazuaLLx]

But if it goes S&D Dom S&D Dom S&D is it not a bit unfair for teams who are stronger at domination?

[xI Reverend Ix]

i think the idea of having more than 1 gametype is to make it more balanced, at the end of the day you have to start with 1, so s&d prob makes the most sence because it the one thats been played at previous XLs.

[KONSPIRACY]

If we S&D and Dom then there would be more S&D games as Dom would be played twice with aggregate score. Such as:

S&D - map1
Dom - map2a
Dom - map2b
S&D - map3

Similarly in best of 5, it would be 3 x S&D and 2 x Dom. Games would be played in that order.

@ Tubez - 2v2 would be double elimination.

[Tubez]

But if it goes S&D Dom S&D Dom S&D is it not a bit unfair for teams who are stronger at domination?

Yes but the other option would of course be,
Domo
S&D
Domo
S&D
Domo
Which would be even more favourable

[KONSPIRACY]

Seems to be a lot of players wanting Sabo removed and have just S&D/Dom.

Problem with this is that it causes an unbalance in gametypes in a best of 3 game series, so we have a few options:

1. rotate deciding gametype per round between S&D and Dom.
2. higher/lower seed host/gametype selection to determine deciding gametype.
3. make deciding gametype TDM (Showdown could be the only balanced map suitable).
4. play 2 x single games of S&D and Dom. If teams are tied then decided on total number of S&D rounds won. If teams are still tied then goes to total points scored.

Any other options?

[iD Rumsey]

option number 1 for me, or 3 but radar always on may be a option as would stop camping. really depends tbh as usually after the first kill one team chases so creates action.

option 1 though 1st choice

[iG DevilZ]

higher seed FTW imo, i wouldnt even consider TDM.

i still think SnD should be the over ruleing gametype, its tried and tested at least.

[Reason EuPhoRia]

Seems to be a lot of players wanting Sabo removed and have just S&D/Dom.

Problem with this is that it causes an unbalance in gametypes in a best of 3 game series, so we have a few options:

1. rotate deciding gametype per round between S&D and Dom.
2. higher/lower seed host/gametype selection to determine deciding gametype.
3. make deciding gametype TDM (Showdown could be the only balanced map suitable).
4. play 2 x single games of S&D and Dom. If teams are tied then decided on total number of S&D rounds won. If teams are still tied then goes to total points scored.

Any other options?

Option 1 definitely.

Alot of people here seem to be hating Sabo, it's not THAT bad, but I certainly wouldn't be a fan of it since 2 good teams would literally be drawing so much in it. At least that's what I've seen from my experience.

Randomizing the deciding gametype is the only fair thing to do if there are only 2 gametypes.

I'm saying that even though I'd rather see 2 dom's played for the run n gun factor!:)

[kezzer90]

S&D all the way, Sabo suks, Domisnt too bad but wudntlike to play it at XL

[Fusion Mayhem]

Seems to be a lot of players wanting Sabo removed and have just S&D/Dom.

Problem with this is that it causes an unbalance in gametypes in a best of 3 game series, so we have a few options:

1. rotate deciding gametype per round between S&D and Dom.
2. higher/lower seed host/gametype selection to determine deciding gametype.
3. make deciding gametype TDM (Showdown could be the only balanced map suitable).
4. play 2 x single games of S&D and Dom. If teams are tied then decided on total number of S&D rounds won. If teams are still tied then goes to total points scored.

Any other options?

number 1 and 2 work but defenatly not tdm

good idea to play 2x dom and 2x snd and then if they are tied i recommend 1x snd or 1x dom with the lower seeded team deciding which it will be with the higher seed hosting.

[EmotionSMz]

We need more people to vote! Everyone get your team to vote on there opinion!