Tournaments on other consoles?

[DinnyHoon]

Yes, yes, I know that this is a 360 site. It has the majority of the Xbox 360's name in its URL, and everything. However, I believe that if Matchbox XL wants to become the British/European version of MLG, or even just expand its presence on the eSports scene, that it needs to start incorporating PC/PS3/Wii tournaments. Online events can be used to gauge how much interest is in such tournaments, and perhaps you could have say, 2 PCs and 2 PS3s at XL6. Maybe even 4 Wiis! Who knows!

Even if you stick to console gaming, there is a lot of untapped potential in games like UT3 (with keyboard/mouse/mods), Resistance, Brawl, Mario Kart, Motorstorm, and the multiplatform games will get a boost.

PS: Please don't reply with "nooooo halo 3 ftw cod4 sux sux sux on ps3 LoLoLoL"

[Innes]

nooooo halo 3 ftw cod4 sux sux sux on ps3 LoLoLoL


Great idea. But then would you need to rebrand the site?

[KONSPIRACY]

Cant say much right now but it is work in progress.

[Terbinator]

Cant say much right now but it is work in progress.

:eek:

but this is a sanctuary for us 360 owners, and wanna be owners;)

i agree with the PC bit though, they have better games than consoles for multiplayer IMO, but then again youd need a batch of good PC's!

[DinnyHoon]

nooooo halo 3 ftw cod4 sux sux sux on ps3 LoLoLoL


Great idea. But then would you need to rebrand the site?

There's always the possibility of taking the last 3 characters off the site's name :p

[Innes]

But then it will be a toy companies name?

[Terbinator]

But then it will be a toy companies name?

lmfao

[DinnyHoon]

But then it will be a toy companies name?

Good ****ing point :p

[iG Shot2]

MLG has only just entered into the PC tournaments, imo it would be a huge mistake for XL to involve any PC tournaments at this stage, and not for a long time to come. I can see PS3 and Wii Tournaments, if the competition and demand is worth it, however, the Xbox has always had the best competition on consoles (with exception to PES) so I dont see the need to. I think it would be best to expand and improve what you have, its a great base and I dont think mutating it into something else would benifit anyone.

[Bonzo]

Once apon a time there was a PS3 version of Matchbox360 i believe, i remember someone telling me about it ages ago. I remember visiting the site and it had something about someone (one of MB360 staff think it could have been Spin) not being able to put any time into it anymore. I could be wrong.
I think it was an epic fail though.

Im THAT old school.

[Pirate Balloon]

Kon, put it this way; more consoles = more people = more £££.



p.s. more £££ = more hoes

[Gaskin]

PS360.org.

Ran by Spindryer. Became a total rivalry to the site, and arguements were had. Spindryer apologised and jumped back on to the MB360 bandwaggon after PS360 closed down.

Or look at it this way Kon, more £££ = more Pirate Balloon's.

[Infidel]

Shouldnt the resources (i.e. money) be devoted to expanding the MUCH more competitive 360 line up at XL so that games like RBSV2 could be featured and wouldnt have to be dropped. There is little to no competitive scene in the UK on the Wii as far as i know, any tourney would just be for fun.

The PS3 competitive scene is still in its infancy and the standard is much lower on CoD4, and enough support would be hard to generate considering the resources that would need to be devoted to it. Apart from Resistance and maybe Motorstorm is there any exclusive games on the PS3 that have a large competitive following? By many accounts these are fairly average games and only stand out on PS3 due to the lack of quality competition in the genres. What can you get on the PS3 that cant be done better and at a higher standard on the 360? At least from a competitve viewpoint.

[KONSPIRACY]

Pretty sure there arent any "competitive" titles on PS3 at the moment but that doesnt mean there wont be in the future. IMO the PS3 community is largely "casual" gamers...and its proved that casual gamers dont attend LAN events, however it cant hurt to feature PS3 or even Wii online if we decide to in the future.

[Infidel]

From my stereotypical viewpoint the majority of current active PS3 owners are the younger teens that wouldn't be old enough to attend XL anyway. But yes online tourneys are the foundation for LAN events in the future, as the support base grows and more attention is drawn to the competitive scene with more competitive games then LAN events may become a possibility i presume.

[Pirate Balloon]

From my stereotypical viewpoint the majority of current active PS3 owners are the younger teens that wouldn't be old enough to attend XL anyway.pfhah, sources please

[Infidel]

I havent got any sources that is just my STEREOTYPICAL viewpoint on the PS3 userbase. Im sure its not that accurate, and i never claimed it to be. Thats just the impression i have for some reason.

[Terbinator]

vote anyone?

[Infidel]

Vote on what?

Kon has already said he has things going on in the background in relation to online tourneys etc. for PS3/ Wii and has practically ruled out any LAN event in the near future.

[Terbinator]

surely we can end the thread then

[DinnyHoon]

Competitively, the 360 obviously has a larger base than the PS3. The likes of Halo, Gears and Forza have shown that. But there is a market to be tapped in to on the Sony side. MotorStorm and Resistance are both hugely competitive games (not as much as Halo or CS:S, but pretty damn big), and there is a lot of potential in Prologue, and eventually, GT5. UT3 is pretty big, too, thanks to the inclusion of KB/Mouse compatibility, as well as mods. There are a couple of decent multiplayer titles that would suit the style of the MB360 online events. Games like F1CE and the multiplatform gems (Guitar Hero, PES etc) would be great as online knockouts/leagues. Hell, maybe MGS4 will take off as a team strategy title. And of course, there's always the PS3 side of COD4.

I don't need a huge paragraph to justify the significance of the Wii. Brawl, Mario Kart, Strikers. That'll do it.

[iG Shot2]

I dont get why you keep talking about PS3 UT3 with KB/M... if I want to use or watch someone use a KB/M at a high level then I'll watch the PC pro's. Console Sports is console because of the controller more than anything imo, its defined by the analog control.

Motorstorm and Resistance are so old now, not really worth including so late in the day.

MGS4.. well maybe but its a SP game at heart, and I think it will show in the MP.

BUY AN XBOX 360 YOU SILLY MOOOO !!!!!!!!

ps. I think wii could be worth it more than PS3, if anything look into Mario Kart...

[Innes]

I dont get why you keep talking about PS3 UT3 with KB/M... if I want to use or watch someone use a KB/M at a high level then I'll watch the PC pro's. Console Sports is console because of the controller more than anything imo, its defined by the analog control.

Motorstorm and Resistance are so old now, not really worth including so late in the day.

MGS4.. well maybe but its a SP game at heart, and I think it will show in the MP.

BUY AN XBOX 360 YOU SILLY MOOOO !!!!!!!!

ps. I think wii could be worth it more than PS3, if anything look into Mario Kart...


You've just opened the gates of hell...and you're wearing a tutu.

[DinnyHoon]

I dont get why you keep talking about PS3 UT3 with KB/M... if I want to use or watch someone use a KB/M at a high level then I'll watch the PC pro's. Console Sports is console because of the controller more than anything imo, its defined by the analog control.

Motorstorm and Resistance are so old now, not really worth including so late in the day.

MGS4.. well maybe but its a SP game at heart, and I think it will show in the MP.

BUY AN XBOX 360 YOU SILLY MOOOO !!!!!!!!

ps. I think wii could be worth it more than PS3, if anything look into Mario Kart...

PS: Please don't reply with "nooooo halo 3 ftw cod4 sux sux sux on ps3 LoLoLoL"

Thanks for playing.

[Bonzo]

BUY AN XBOX 360 YOU SILLY MOOOO !!!!!!!!

ps. I think wii could be worth it more than PS3, if anything look into Mario Kart...
He already has an Xbox 360 d00d!

Mario Kart, you cannot be serious. The pickups on Mario Kart vary from the positions of players around the track, first place get bad pickups like bannana's and last place get 'bullet bills'. Therefore the game not being balanced as far as pickups are considered. Then there's the different karts and bikes you can ride, everyone would have to be in the standard kart if it was played competitively, the standard kart has different stats depending on which character you pick. That would cause problems with people wanting to be certain characters. Then im pretty sure there'd be arguments about players who want to use the controller and nunchuk and those who want to use the steering wheel. I could go on forever but i won't bore you.

Mario Kart would be and is a fun game to play but when there'd be prizes given to the determined winner it would be a bad tournament. The game is based around luck more than skill.

[Spindryer]

I've always thought the PS3 has a competitive market just begging to be nurtured. COD4 for instance is huge on the PS3 and the people playing it aren't exactly playing to lose. But as stated i don't have the time/money and effort to get a site going but i still think its more than a worthwhile cause to the ppl who have.

[iG Shot2]

Nowhere in that post did I say PS3 sucks and Xbox 360 rules blah blah. I simply pointed out the facts, if you think the facts make the 360 rule then I guess your the one to blame for taking the post that way not me.

The thing with the wii (i dont have one, so sorry about mario, I put it in as I thought it might be a contender). Is pretty much all the games are going to be more about luck and fun than about skill and competition, the console is made for fun not hardcore gaming comps.

I'll end by asking, why not just play your Xbox 360 for competitions? Why do you prefer play the PS3 over 360? Im not putting PS3 down in anyway, im just saying, if you want to play competitively so badly then why not pick up a 360 controller? Its been obvious from way back that the Xbox is the place for competition, ever since Halo CE its all been about Xbox, no major LAN has ever backed PS3, maybe that shows an untapped market or maybe its for a reason! Do you not want to play at the top level, like WCG and stuff? If so then I really think you should consider playing your 360..

[Bushmouseone]

There is little to no competitive scene in the UK on the Wii as far as i know,.

Super. Smash. Brothers. Brawl.!

Some guy (Mr.Showtime) has these stats: 190-105-0
And hes still in 74th place.

Thats alot of games of the FALCON PAUNCHing, Cap.F spammig, multiplaying fun with a bunch of crazed, killing cartoon animal things. (and Solid Snake .... :().

I would say there is some compition outside of Xbox 360, and i personally thing Xl shoudl jump on the bandwaggon, Make some £, and get off at the stop before last.

[NeoKubrick]

The thing with the wii (i dont have one, so sorry about mario, I put it in as I thought it might be a contender). Is pretty much all the games are going to be more about luck and fun than about skill and competition, the console is made for fun not hardcore gaming comps.

Super Smash Bros. Melee?

[Mellow]

I don't know what the argument is. The place where XL is now held looks huge so if there's actually a competitive community for other consoles and they can be funded, then simply, why not?

Like I said before. How dramatic would it be for the 360 CoD 4 champions to face off against the PS3 champions. Not too sure how we'd do that. Maybe using some PS3 pad mod for the 360 or vice versa. We'd need a good way of doing it but I'd love to see something like that.

I don't see what's to debate. If there is a fan base, there is, if there isn't, there isn't. Better off finding out than speculating.

Oh and more people does not neccessarily = more money. Obviously.

[Linky D]

i can see it becoming a good thing i play 360 gona get ps3 soon tho for mgs4 dont look that good online but o well and new socom and if its anything like socom 1 or 2 it will be a very good game but we will just have to wait and see

[NeoKubrick]

The PS community (SOCOM) is bunkered at Console Gaming, and from what I've heard, they're planning to create a LAN in the near-future, which will be probably a LAN PS3 as most of their members tend to look down upon the Xbox 360. They're all fanboys in other words. ;)

[DinnyHoon]

They're all fanboys in other words. ;)

Unfortunately. It's a shame, too, because a huge 360/PS3/Wii LAN event is something e-sports needs.

[Bonzo]

DinnyHoon, competitive Wii LAN organizer. DO IT.

[DinnyHoon]

I can't - Brawl isn't out :p

[Pirate Balloon]

DinnyHoon, competitive Wii LAN organizer. DO IT.what? dinny couldnt organise a threesome in a brothel


edit: have to give credit to him for tying though

[Mellow]

I never understood the whole fan boy thing. I mean sure, you like what you like but some people take it too far and their opinion of other things is hindered by the fact that they've locked into a certain mind set of they should like one thing and one thing only.

[Renegade]

It often comes from gamers that can't (for whatever reason) get one of the other consoles. Therefore when they spend over £200 on a new console they defend their purchase when others question it.

[Spindryer]

I think it goes even deeper than that tbh, I think its an issue because some people get emotionally attached to their new product (console) and then feel the need to defend its reputation to the death. The same way we all stick up for our mates whether there wrong or right.

[Bushmouseone]

I think it goes even deeper than that tbh, I think its an issue because some people get emotionally attached to their new product (console) and then feel the need to defend its reputation to the death. The same way we all stick up for our mates whether there wrong or right.

I think with the console issue, its more that with each console costing a fair bit, people are always trying to convince themselves that they bought the right console, and didnt "wase their money".

I am 90% sure that all the people that go onto Xbox360 forums as a PS3 fanboy have doubts in th back of their mind and constantly asking themselves which console is better, only to beat it down with "ZOMG! Ps3 has blu ray, xbox360 sux!" ect.

[iG ExPoZe]

Only way Mario Kart Wii would be viable would be through time trials, because although the weapon pickups are a good laugh somtimes they're highly frustating all the other times and it just adds a random factor to the game making it less competitive.

However, I would love to see the new Smash title featured in online tournaments and at XL. Really good game to be honest.

PC should only considered in the very distant future, even then console should remain as the flagship format for XL/Matchbox360.

[Ghost]

I was woundering if we could make a cod 1 s&d tournament only rife

[KONSPIRACY]

Not really no...simply because there wouldnt be anyone interested.

[Ghost]

well if u'd ask me my clan would be very interested the =209th= clan and some other clans also

[KONSPIRACY]

Yeah but the question is...how many is "some"? Also I presume this is for pc?

[Ghost]

yes this would be for the PC i would say a 100 teams would be up for it there is still a League going on for call of duty 1 and tournaments in other country's so yah

[quickshot89]

yes this would be for the PC i would say a 100 teams would be up for it there is still a League going on for call of duty 1 and tournaments in other country's so yah

PC tournaments are very hard to organise for, as they require much greater amounts of hardware and im taking a guess here but insurance would be too much for matchbox to pay out

stick to online for a PC game, much greater community for a pc gamer