GRID demo - Due this week!

[jigglybean]

GRID Community update – 8/5/08

The GRID demo is out NOW on XBL!!!! - Enjoy

The demo has 3 events to compete in. The eBay Motors Muscle Cup sees you taking the wheel of a ford Mustang GT-R and the streets of San Francisco, the Advan International Trophy hands you a Nissan S15 Silvia and your playground is Yokohama Docks, and the Euro Touring Car Series provides some old-school tin-top thrills with a BMW 320si touring car and the sweeping curves and hairpins of Jarama.

You’ll also have the opportunity to use the console versions of the demo to win an amazing prize. More details when the demo comes out. As we post this, we’re in the middle of the first GRID community day, where we’ve invited lots of folks from all over the UK to come visit Codemasters HQ and have a play of the game. You’ll get a more lengthy report on the day next week!

This week, we uploaded the “Le Mans Consultants” Video (available in the Downloads section). While portions of it were being filmed, we grabbed Le Mans Racer Stuart Hall for a quick chat. Check it out over the page.

[Roadpog]

WOO DRIFTING. The only reason i ever played the game at XL :p

[jigglybean]

Quick update! The demo is out now!!

[Renegade]

Sweet, will download when I've done my revision :cool:

[Terbinator]

ive got revision aswell :(

[quickshot89]

right, im gonna give this a go and download it, seen as i dont have a lesson till 2pm and cba with stats revision until 2night

[HNDoc]

Good Luck with your english test.

[DinnyHoon]

I've heard little about this game, but it does intrigue me. Is this up there with the Forzas and the Gran Turismos of this world (in terms of realism/awesomeness)?

[Roadpog]

Oh yeah baby. Its great just download the demo. I love it, Absolutley fantastic can't wait :D

[DinnyHoon]

Will do.

[Terbinator]

i thought this was supposed to be realistic :confused: it feels arcadey, ice even turned the assists off, i'll play it a bit more later but i had my hopes pinned on a new forza:( one thing i did like though was the speed of the game, even when your in the middle off a school of cars and doin 100/120 the visuals are solid its like watching a 100hz tele!

[KONSPIRACY]

Errr...where was my invite?! :eek: :p

Looking forward to this...

/turns on 360 and starts downloading demo.

I was actually expecting it to hit the shops round about now...when is release date?

[Terbinator]

30th

[DinnyHoon]

Wow, that was not what I was expecting.

The handling feels very unique. A sort of hybrid between Forza 2 and Mario Kart. It's like PGR on cocaine, but with damage and cars that can turn on a sixpence. It reminds me a lot of F-Zero X. 20 (!) cars, all going at insane speeds, bumping into each other like there's no tomorrow. Brilliant fun, and it can be very frustrating to have your steering rack knocked out of place.

The track is unforgiving, and although the cars are bloody easy to handle, it is a challenge to keep all four wheels on the tarmac, particularly going into a corner.

It's a definite buy for me, if only to hear the crazy yank say "GREAT DRIVING DANIEL" again.

[jigglybean]

LOL Sorry Kon! It came out of now where today. You can also win a BMW with the demo time trials - http://community.grid-game.com/win-a-bmw/

Glad you all like it, alot of players had fun with it back at XL4.

[Terbinator]

after more playing its a definite plus from me, i really enjoyed colin mcrae (r.i.p.) and seems just as good!

[KONSPIRACY]

Its ok Jiggly...as long as you send me a box of promo copies before release then I'll forgive you! ;)

ps that BMW is mine! :D

[Roadpog]

Loving the demo. Was playing it online earlier. Owned Strings and came first by a milliseconds it was INSANE!!!! Anyone up for a race add my GT GenetiX Xenon :D

[quickshot89]

i love this game after 1 race, i dont normally do realistic driving games, but the instant replay function makes it soooo much better, went from 20 to 1 after two laps of the very 1st race in grid world, fantastic game

is the live side playable?

[xXMFx Massacre]

It's very good will deffo buy!! only letdown is the handling..But overall a must buy cant wait for the super long 24hr races!....what's all your times for the euro challenge in time trial?mines 1.15.80

[P1R Karter]

This game is awesome, I'm definately going to by this, you have to drive the cars so hard and to the limit. I done a 1:16.5 can easily go quicker the eBay car is amazing too. :D:D:D

[kurosaki7]

For me its a cross between an arcade racer such as ridge with a bit of mario karts turning in now and again for good measure, then a little bit of realism thrown in, for me its a bad mix, everything feels too twitchy and also does not look anywhere near as good as GT.

Definitely not one to get me back into racing games.

[quickshot89]

tried the drift race, its bloody hard to get it right, you take your finger off the acc and turn the handbrake on, turn for the drift, and you just spin out of control, or at least i am 9/10 times

[Roadpog]

Dont e-brake. Scandanavian flick it. If you know what that is. Turn away from the corner then into it then opposite lock. Should just cruise around it :p

[Nuked]

very very unrealistic is all i can say, feels very arcady. looks nice and is still quite a good game.


1.16.01 on the time trial, reckon i could get in 14s, as 3-4 corners i was shite on

[KONSPIRACY]

I still havent broke 1:18! lol :D

Are you guys using manual or automatic? Is there any benefit in speed using manual on GRID?

Overall I'm very impressed with the demo...the game looks superb and the gameplay is fun. Sure its not realistic as in terms of a simulator but ask yourself is the game meant to be...do you really want to play another version of Forza2 which failed to be a "popular" title largely due to the fact that it is too realistic and in depth?

[DinnyHoon]

I thought Forza 2 fell because of its disastrous menu system and glitch-filled online?

[KONSPIRACY]

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why ppl dont play it, and similarly why ppl do actually love Forza2...but for me it was simply down to the fact that you cant really just pick up and play unless you play stock cars. Not to mention I'm probably still mentally scared from having my garage corrupted on Forza1.

Anyways, GRID looks fantastic and can wait for full release! :cool:

[jigglybean]

GRID is all about the race. We avoided adding tuning etc to enable it to be a 'pick up and play' game - which it does very well. The menus also have been very well planned and looked great.

One of the most interesting things for us when we attended XL4, was seeing some of you guys adjust your driving style after playing such games like Forza and PGR where damage didnt actually matter. Great to watch!

[quickshot89]

yeah, i liked how the menu system works, enter your name and you get the feeling the game talks to you

[Xg Corkin]

Downloading it then deleted it after a couple of races, the handling is awful.

[IcemanLeigh]

Downloading now..

[Nuked]

yeh the profile name is the coolest thing ever, i was very impressed when i saw it.

[Terbinator]

profile name is good, but im not feeling the handling. the standard races feel like your on a drift course and for some reaosn you can go round corners at 150??? i coudnt do that on forza with 333sp yet i can in a modified 3 series?

[jigglybean]

trying using the brakes :-p You cant bump off things like you can on forza or other games.

[Gaskin]

No, he said you can go round corners at 150. It's not as realistic as Forza, and Forza you can't bounce off walls, that's PGR. This game is still good regardless.

[Gaskin]

Why does driving like a real driving game and using Manual transmission become a disadvantage on this game? It seems if you take corners stupidly and unrealistically you go faster. I'm going to change to AT now too, as Manual gearing seemed to be a disadvantage for some stupid reason.

[xXMFx Massacre]

trying using the brakes :-p You cant bump off things like you can on forza or other games.

Hi jiggly a few questions...in the full version will i be able to qualify for my start position online & offline?...will you be able to take collisions OFF online "ghost cars" because i had a few races and it's all most impossible to overtake due to the bad camera angle when you go into the very front camera view 'it would be brill if you could rotate the camera all around the car instead of just being able to look to your left & right'?.1 more question can you do full 24hr races online & can you have teams like the real lemanz?.Iwill look forward to your answers thanks

[xXMFx Massacre]

One more it's great to see that you have secured the license for F1 hopefully it's will be out for xbox-360 'thats one more game to tick off sony's ps3 exclusive games mgs next?'

[DinnyHoon]

Codemasters have the F1 licence now? I don't know whether that's good or bad news. I love Studio Liverpool's work with the series, as well as Wipeout. However, I'd much rather see an F1 game given to Codemasters than the likes of EA and Activision.

[GenetiX Shadow]

all i say is that we should hold a tournament up for the demo and see who really is the best racer !!!! AND NO MARk there is no drifting so hahaha. lol add my gt if ur up for a tourney its GenetiX Shadow

[Renegade]

Gaskin, I agree with you. I started off racing like it should be done in real life, and was consistently getting poor times. Started to race like an idiot, flooring it through corners, and beat the record time. What really drilled it in to me was watching the ghost of the world record - number of apex's hit = zero.

[Gaskin]

I've managed to beat the time, just. With AT, and driving semi normal. I'm going have to be a PGR tard and do stupid things to do well it seems. Also it's weird how the Manual transmission doesn't increase speed at all, when you're changing gear a lot later it really should be faster than AT.

[Terbinator]

trying using the brakes :-p You cant bump off things like you can on forza or other games.

the problem being i can go round the corners at that speed and don't need to use the brakes?

[IcemanLeigh]

Absolutely ridiculous. Driving sideways through a corner is not faster than taking it properly.. There is no way that should be possible.

[Renegade]

Agreed mate. I'm falling out with GRID tbh - it doesn't reward good driving, it rewards stupid things. By all means go for the adrenaline rush Codemasters, but make it plausible.

Also, I'm absolutely sick of the commentator guy saying my damn name every time he says something. Just say what you need to say, without saying 'Daniel' before it. It was cool to begin with, but even my bloody mother doesn't use my name that much.

[jigglybean]

You have turned the driver aids off?

[Renegade]

Yep. That's the main problem with it - times don't increase by turning them off and racing well, which they should. Turn them off on Forza and master them and the improvement in lap times is clear. Not so on GRID - it still pays to race like a loon, taking corners semi-sideways at 150.

[Bonzo]

Anyone getting sick of the guy who whistles everytime you cross the finish line?
seriously, if you were traveling at 150mph+ you wouldn't hear a whistle from a spectator in the stands for like 5 seconds straight.

[Renegade]

I've stopped playing it because of the commentator!

[Bonzo]

I've stopped playing it because of the commentator!
ROFL.
I'm playing it on mute right now.

I wanted 'Pete' as my name, guess i'll have to settle for 'Peter'.

FIX IT CODEMASTERS.
:p

[Renegade]

Honestly, it's like getting talked to by my parents....

"Daniel, you've taken some damage"

"Daniel, you're in first place"

"Daniel, put the tea on"

[Bonzo]

Playing along in my first race in 1st and completely choked when he said "Peter your on your final lap", ended up in 5th :(

[KONSPIRACY]

Change your name to a nickname rather than "Daniel"...I couldnt handle being called "Christopher" as the only person in the world that calls me that is my mum, so find a suitable option in the nickname list.

[Renegade]

"Steven" doesn't seem as personal to me ;)

"Dan" isn't there :(

[KONSPIRACY]

Now your just being an arse! lol :p

Kon isnt there either but one of my mates calls me "Colonel" for some reason so I had that. If you dont like them addressing you then dont select a name or choice something completely random that you dont associate with yourself.

I cant believe we're discussing what a computer game calls you! lol :D

[Renegade]

Is 'God' in there? :D

[Nuked]

you only need to break for one corner, the first, i decided id taking traction control off, as that would make me go faster, turns out u cant go round corners fast otherwise ud spin out, stupidist thing ever, thats wat satbility control is for, not bloody TCS

[Terbinator]

jiggly bean the driver aids make no difference they just enable you to drift round the corners need for speed style even more easier:confused: . form the start line your proppeled into 4th gear and 80mph in about 2 seconds, the handling does need sorting out other wise online races are going to be ruined (aswell as offline) by people thinking the games PGR:mad:
(and steaming into an apex) which at the moment it is with a sepia filter attached. will this information be relayed on, i dont know but i find it most probably won't due to nearing release date, if these issues were sorted out there's proabbly a solid racer underneath but obviously its not just me who feels this way:p

[Nuked]

just had another go at the game, dont think ill be playing it again, such a let down, a really poor game

[Gaskin]

It's good for people who like racing games where you don't have to drive well. Better drivers would lose to **** kids, seriously. I struggled to beat that WR with manual transmission and taking corners close to perfect, it was pathetic. I thought this game looked promising when I played it at XL, but I have been disappointed. :(

[KONSPIRACY]

Sorry but thats a stupid statement...if you lose to someone on GRID then that means they are better than you on the game. If you beat them at Forza2 then that means you are better than them on Forza2, and likewise with PGR4.

GRID isnt a simulator and doesnt pretend to be so, and as such you as a player need to adjust your gameplay to get the best results out of the game. That doesnt make the game bad...it makes you bad at the game.

Also a reminder that this is a demo...as far as demos go, its one of the best I've played so far. The full game will obviously provide more longevity but if you dont like the gameplay then its unlikely to float your boat on release...thats the whole point of releasing "demos" ;)

[Gaskin]

A racing game which has proper tracks, with proper cars, should mean driving properly is rewarded, not stupidly. Drifting around a corner sideways rewards a faster corner, whereas hitting the apex does not. It's not being bad at the game, it's the game punishing you for having common sense. Sorry to say this Chris but I'm fairly certain several others will agree with me here.

[DinnyHoon]

I agree with Gaskin. This game is incredibly fun, and I'm definitely buying it, but even Mario Kart rewards hitting the apex (to a small extent, admittedly). The supremo-fast drifting in GRID reminds me of Ridge Racer, and while Ridge Racer was bloody brilliant in its time, it doesn't have a patch on any of today's racers. Developers in this day and age should definitely be looking at some degree of realism in every game they make, no matter how loony.

That said, the AI is bloody brilliant at times. The AI cars react to my presence in the same way they do in nearly every game (they don't), but if you ever feel like a show, hang back behind a crowd of cars and watch them scrap for the racing line.

[KONSPIRACY]

Well that explains why I cant quite break the WR time then as I always drive to the racing line and apex rather than using drift. I'll have to put that to the test and if your right then I agree its stupid in terms of driving reality, but if its how that game plays and the idea behind the game is to reward drift then thats the way you need to drive.

[Renegade]

That's how I broke the WR Kon - drift every corner, the only corner you should be braking for is the first one - every single other corner gets a faster time by not braking.

I do like the adrenaline rush it provides, but I can't shake the feeling that it doesn't feel right to be racing the way I am and getting good times. In terms of a racing game it's one step away from having power-ups. It's not a bad game, it's just weird...

[Nuked]

all toca games before this have been great, i played a drift mode last night accelrated in a nisssan silvia 0-60 in about 0.5secs, its really stupid, i felt that dirt spelt the end of great codemasters driving games, seems i was right

[Roadpog]

Nah. This game is great. Love every minute of it. How much fun can you have on a racing game. I got bored of Forza pretty quick because it was just too realistic and made it boring, with this you can just floor it and hope for the best and have a right laugh with the car. It really is great :D

[Bonzo]

They really need to make the apex's higher, on the demo you can just drive over them. They should be braking your suspension.

[IcemanLeigh]

Nah. This game is great. Love every minute of it. How much fun can you have on a racing game. I got bored of Forza pretty quick because it was just too realistic and made it boring, with this you can just floor it and hope for the best and have a right laugh with the car. It really is great :D

Fair enough I suppose. To me this is everything I don't want in a racing game. In the same way you wouldn't want to be rewarded in an fps for missing shots, and penalised for hitting someone perfectly in the head. If I hit an apex perfectly at the fastest speed possible and get penalised for not taking the outside line around the corner sideways which apparently in some ridiculous universe is faster, I just want to punch someone in the face. Was looking forward to this game, but I am sorry to say it has gone down to a definite no now in its current state.

[Crosso]

I did enjoy the demo, apart from the drift, man beating the rival's score is unpredicable, but the AI are tough and good for the europe race, but the usa one was a joke for me.

i'll be buying the full game when it comes, and the gaskin bros. comments about it has made me worry that doing the right racing technique not the stragety of the game.

If this does'nt get me back to racing games, then it's a big shame

[KONSPIRACY]

I actually had a brief convo with Neo about this the other day...basically racing games died a few years ago simply because theres not much more than can be done with them without rehashing the same old formula over and over again.

Theres only so much that can be done with the graphics, and what would be the point in creating another version of Forza? Just may be GRID will actually inject some much needed life into what is increasingly becoming a dead genre of games.

[Fonzzie]

Ite kon. Will Grid be added to one of the games at XL5. Thanks.

http://www.cdlimousines.co.uk/team.jpg

[Crosso]

Then i'm hoping GRID is still fun to keep it going, if only sega brung back daytona usa then im happy, which funny is GRID plays just like that.

[KONSPIRACY]

Ite kon. Will Grid be added to one of the games at XL5. Thanks.

I believe GRID will be available as a tournament at XL5. Full details tbc.

[Terbinator]

A racing game which has proper tracks, with proper cars, should mean driving properly is rewarded, not stupidly. Drifting around a corner sideways rewards a faster corner, whereas hitting the apex does not. It's not being bad at the game, it's the game punishing you for having common sense. Sorry to say this Chris but I'm fairly certain several others will agree with me here.

here, here

[Gaskin]

I've been playing the demo, and I played some of the XBL races, now a part from the ****ing idiots that insist on ramming you to pass you or just to piss you off, it's a reasonably fun game. I've learnt the Touring car track now, and more or less I'll win every race if I'm not taken out completely. It's fun, and I've had some decent races. But still, the only reason I'm winning is because I'm racing people who are trying to take a driving line, whereas I go full speed across the tar mack and it turns the corner for me. Silly.

[Gaskin]

Right who wants to do some races? I'm going to set up a lobby now. Add el Gaskin if you want to play. The game is more fun than PGR considering PGR wasn't really a simulator either.

[P1R Karter]

I Like Grid but I don't like the Spaniards, there dirty. And it all because Hamilton is doing better than Alonso :D:D

[uG I PegSe]

i would be intrested to see what time people can get on the demo.
i was just playing with some guys in my clan and i got a 1:42:60 which is my fastest so far.
can anyone else tell me what they got on the pro muscle race on the grid demo please :d

also looking foreward to XL guys,

P.S can someone change my name to uG I PegSe

[Gaskin]

Is that the muscle? I'll give that a go. My fastest with the touring cars is a 1.14.92

[uG I PegSe]

Is that the muscle? I'll give that a go. My fastest with the touring cars is a 1.14.92

thats pretty impressive, i get mid 15s on the touring lol
i just got a 1:42:30 on the muscle and messed up abit so it should be easy to beat, if you concentrate you could hit a 1:41 im sure of it:cool:

[P1R Karter]

i got a 1:41:88 my mates had a 1:41:66 but worlds fastest of a 1:39:43!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[uG I PegSe]

i got a 1:41:88 my mates had a 1:41:66 but worlds fastest of a 1:39:43!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well thats wiped the smile off my face:eek:

[P1R Karter]

lol i know!!

[Terbinator]

the car list is up on the official GRID forums if anyone is intrested

[KONSPIRACY]

Link?

[Terbinator]

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280819

:rolleyes:

[KONSPIRACY]

For the lazy, heres the final car list for GRID:

DALLARA FORMULA 3
FJ 1000
BMW 320si
CHEVROLET CORVETTE C5-R
CHEVROLET CORVETTE C6-R
CHEVROLET CAMARO CONCEPT
CHEVROLET LACETTI
MAZDA 787B
MAZDA RX-7 FD3S
TOYOTA SUPRA
TOYOTA COROLLA GT-S (AE86)
TOYOTA SOARER (JZZ30)
SUBARU IMPREZA
PONTIAC GTO
NISSAN 350Z
NISSAN SILVIA
NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R Z-TUNE
NISSAN R390 GT-1
TVR TUSCAN CHALLENGE
PORSCHE 911 GT3 RSR
PANOZ ESPERANTE
SPYKER C8 SPYDER
LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO RGT
ASTON MARTIN DBR9
SALEEN S7R
COURAGE C65
COURAGE LC70
LOLA B05/40
LOLA B06/10
FORD MUSTANG GT-R CONCEPT
FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302
DORAN RACING JE4
DODGE VIPER SRT10
MOPAR DODGE CHARGER SRT8 DRIFT
DODGE CHALLENGER CONCEPT
KOENIGSEGG CCXR
KOENIGSEGG CCGT
PAGANI ZONDA R
AUDI R10 TDI
CREATION CA06/H-JUDD
JUPITER EAGLERAY MK5
HONDA NSX-R
PLYMOUTH AAR 'CUDA

Source (http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280819)

[Terbinator]

there are 2 cars missing off that list, one being a Ferrari F430 GT, the other i dont know of...

[DinnyHoon]

More proof that this is an arcade racer in sheep's clothing (oh, you know what I mean). 50-100 cars != simulation-type game.

[Terbinator]

More proof that this is an arcade racer in sheep's clothing (oh, you know what I mean). 50-100 cars != simulation-type game.

do you mean in a good way or bad.

on another note, theres an article on ign http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/875/875155p1.html
this showcases the 'best' cars in each type of vehicle class, there seems to be multple car classes (12) which could mean very few cars to pick from for each class:(

[Pie In The Sky]

Codemasters have the F1 licence now? I don't know whether that's good or bad news. I love Studio Liverpool's work with the series, as well as Wipeout. However, I'd much rather see an F1 game given to Codemasters than the likes of EA and Activision.

http://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/25287-F1-What-Can-We-Expect-from-the-Next-Formula-One-Game-

[Terbinator]

doesnt want much does he? the only thing im worried about is 1.) are codemasters going to make this an arcade style racer aswell (hopefully not) and 2.) they dont go in the same art direction as GRID, it feels like theyve applied a brown filter over the game, i think the F1 game on PS3 looks fine how it is.

[Pie In The Sky]

Some of the ideas that guy put forward were a bit silly; but I like the safety car, formation lap, realistic damage, and red flag.
I think press conference and national anthems is maybe a little too far. I also think realism in overtaking, weather, and performance should be a given.
I'm an F1 nut, so I really hope they get this right. Realism is key here IMO.
Predicted 2009 release.

[Terbinator]

i agree with what youve pointed out, im a bit of an addict my self so these little things would make all the difference but he did put some points forward that are a bit extreme.

[xXMFx Massacre]

grid is crap

[P1R Karter]

Massacre, Sorry to P*1*5*5 on you fire but someone has.

[Crosso]

Is'nt it a little late now the demo contest is done?

and plus the leaderboards show some ridiculous times at top, some people found glitches already?

[Spindryer]

Thats because they are using different cars.