Carling cup final

[IcemanLeigh]

Tottenham vs Chelsea 3pm kick off

So, the day is here. Tis Carling Cup final day. Masive day for both clubs involved with both managers looking to win their first silverware for their respective teams. Looks to be a good one. Both teams good going forward and both (possibly according to reports) missing players at the back. I have heard many a 2-1 prediction for this match for both teams, and have even caught a sniff of someone talking of a 5 goal thriller. All of this, as well as it being a final, probably gets its biro out and writes 0-0 all over it, but the unpredictability of this one looks to go all the way.

Chelsea are the favourites but Spurs are on good form and if they click going forward and their back line works well together then they could cause the upset.

Thoughts? Predictions?

[Gaskin]

Chelsea 1-1 Tottenham. Chelsea win on penalties when Jermaine Defoe handglides into the stadium putting off Robbie Keane who blasts the ball over the bar.

[Spindryer]

1-0 Tottenham with Keane scoring in the 11th minute.

[Terbinator]

Chelsea 1-1 Tottenham. Chelsea win on penalties when Jermaine Defoe handglides into the stadium putting off Robbie Keane who blasts the ball over the bar.

lmao

[Dark]

Better not end 1-0 to Chelsea.
Please score Tottenham!

[Roadpog]

The best team won What a game 2-1 to tottenham

The best game. Chelsea not very well played at all

[kHz HaVoK]

Was a **** game tbh, poor game from both point of views, chelsea were awfull but scored a nice free kick!

How lucky can spurs be though with their goals, a penalty and a lucky goal for woodgate!

Ahwell chelsea just have to shake it off and get on with the other competitions this year!

[Gaskin]

Chelsea will be downhearted. Not because they lost in the final, they don't care about that. They'll just be morally shattered because of losing to such a **** team like Tottenham.

Poor Chelsea though, they won't be winning anything this year now.

[Roadpog]

Tottenham arnt ****? they're a good side causing upsets along the way. One cup this year what about the next year?

[Gaskin]

They're sitting at like 11th in the league. Awesome team. One cup this year, next year? Nothing.

Actually this year I am rooting for them for the Uefa cup in fairness, I'd like to see them win that. Just wish they still had Defoe, then I'd like the team a lot more. :(

[Roadpog]

Yea loosing Defoe was a bad idea and he well could be one of the top scorers in the Premiership!!

Sitting 11th in the league maybe but they still have a chance of winning things next year. Ramos is a good manager just give him time, Tottenham isnt Newcastle!!

[Renegade]

Really happy for Spurs, I hate Chelsea - it's nice to see someone else outside the top 4 winning the cup.

Congrats to Spurs and to the Spurs fans - enjoy it!

[nimac]

I used to think Chelsea were ok but I have grown to dislike them an awful lot over the last few months and after today I was really glad to see them getting beat. The referee tried his best with the stopwatch but to no avail and even through Drogba hit a great free kick it looked like I had just taken him out with the Carbine with Red Dot on!!! Did you see the agony he was supposedly in prior to the free kick and then when he scores he covers half the godamn pitch to give it the large.....jog on Didier :mad:
I thought when the final whistle came they were extremely unsportsmanlike and took the hump with everyone else but themselves, from a neutral point of view they lost to the better team on the day. I wouldn't agree that Spurs are ****, I think they are playing some great football at the minute. Lennon and Jenas ran at Chelsea all day and Berbatov was class as usual....Woodgate's header was not lucky; he was in the right place at the right time and got enough on it to take it onto Cech who punched the ball straight back at him.
Fair play to Spurs and Juande Ramos ;)

[kHz HaVoK]

I used to think Chelsea were ok but I have grown to dislike them an awful lot over the last few months and after today I was really glad to see them getting beat. The referee tried his best with the stopwatch but to no avail and even through Drogba hit a great free kick it looked like I had just taken him out with the Carbine with Red Dot on!!! Did you see the agony he was supposedly in prior to the free kick and then when he scores he covers half the godamn pitch to give it the large.....jog on Didier :mad:
I thought when the final whistle came they were extremely unsportsmanlike and took the hump with everyone else but themselves, from a neutral point of view they lost to the better team on the day. I wouldn't agree that Spurs are ****, I think they are playing some great football at the minute. Lennon and Jenas ran at Chelsea all day and Berbatov was class as usual....Woodgate's header was not lucky; he was in the right place at the right time and got enough on it to take it onto Cech who punched the ball straight back at him.
Fair play to Spurs and Juande Ramos ;)

Haha so cech punching the ball onto his head isn't lucky? :rolleyes:
fair play to spurs but how can you not say the 2 goals wern't luck? a penalty which was harse and the header!
Chelsea were poor and didn't deserve ta win, guess they'll just have to win the other 3 trophies this year!:cool:

[Roadpog]

Chelsea won't win anything.
Man U Or Arsenal have it locked down although possible just Man U due to the Eduardo incident

[Terbinator]

Chelsea won't win anything.
Man U Or Arsenal have it locked down although possible just Man U due to the Eduardo incident

eduardo ant got nout to do with it, united ad it on lockdown anyway.

[Renegade]

eduardo ant got nout to do with it, united ad it on lockdown anyway.

How can it be on lockdown when they still aren't even top??

I'm sure United will win the title simply because I think Arsenal will bottle it, but it's far from locked down yet...

[Enraged Wang 07]

I think it's fair to say that Spurs really played well. Chelsea are truly painfull to watch the past season or two and today was no different. They are a difficult team to beat, sure, but they really needed to be outplayed in every area some day.

Tottenham were brilliant, Chelsea were dire.

All i need to ask really is, Anybody else see Jamie O'Hara earlier? Gotta feel sorry for the lad.

Oh and finally, I read on the BBC site just then that Drogba has been offered a part on the West End!! I reckon he'll be top draw at that, Billy Elliot is right up his street...

[IcemanLeigh]

ABSOLUTELY ****ING BRILLIANT! COME ON YOU SPURS!

Get in there. If I am honest I am generally a very gracious winner, making this post very difficult! I ****ing love it! Tottenham deserve to be winning silverware with the team they have, and Ramos has brought that back to the lane. Tottenham were the better team, they came out with the btter attitude and looked to take the game to Chelsea straight away.

Chelsea losing to a **** team like Tottenham? Spurs have lost 1 game in 10, and are unbeaten in 6 in all competitions. I am sorry but you are ****ing retarded. Spurs are one of the form teams in the premiership and have just won the first silverware of the season. Get a clue and wake up. (This part has been heavily edited to be ALOT less harsh than the original sentence)

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/images/articles/7145-19.jpg

[DinnyHoon]

eduardo ant got nout to do with it, united ad it on lockdown anyway.

Sometimes I think you say such crap on purpose. They don't 'av it on lockdown', they're 3 points behind Arsenal.

[Roadpog]

As i said in a diff thread it'll come down to the last game like one point between the two.

Arsenal need to win and So do Man Utd but if Arsenal draw Man U Win

[Renegade]

Congrats to Spurs and to the Spurs fans - enjoy it!

Hehe, that bit was aimed at Leigh and Corthag, and it's safe to say Leigh is most definitely enjoying it ;)

Be proud Leigh, a lot of 'neutrals' were on Spurs side last night!

Just make sure you tell us about your hangover too ;):D

[Gaskin]

Tottenham win the Carling Cup and think they're chuffing one of the best teams in europe, who would have thought it.

LMFAO, GTFO Tottenham, just consider yourselves lucky Chelsea made the final and will finish top four this season so you get your precious place in europe. Enjoy the mid table finish anyway.

[Renegade]

Thing is, now Spurs have one guaranteed piece of silverware this season. If Arsenal bottle the league (which they look like doing), and lose in Milan (which is likely) they don't win a thing. Don't act as though Arsenal wouldn't have liked to win the League Cup this season.

As far as I can see, nobody has claimed Spurs are one of the best in Europe. We are happy they won one of our domestic Cups and are going from strength to strength under Ramos. Nothing wrong with being happy for a team.

[Gaskin]

I was probably a tad harsh. But oh well.

I'd like to see Arsenal go on to win the league, or the CL, it'd be very nice nice. But I'm just looking at that Championship table baby. BCFC!

[Renegade]

So you'll follow whoever wins most. Gotcha ;)

[NeoKubrick]

If Arsenal bottle the league (which they look like doing)

Did they bottle it, or are you just parroting the rest of the hacks in the tabloids and broadsheets? Arsenal came back from a goal behind at Brum, and if it weren't for a penalty decision that never was, and a penalty decision that was, and a free-kick that was a gift to Birmingham, they would have won the game.

[Gaskin]

So you'll follow whoever wins most. Gotcha ;)

No, last time I checked I've been supporting Bristol City for the past 8 years. Idiot.

[Renegade]

Apart from when Arsenal are doing well. Your attitude has been crap lately Gaskin - it was quite nice when you were away. The idiot comment wasn't needed, especially when you feel you can wander into a Carling Cup Final and slag off Spurs (odd, if you're a BC fan and not an Arsenal fan) and not have someone get annoyed with you.

Neo - my comments were based on my opinion. I don't read newspapers and I am capable of making up my own mind. It looks, to me and plenty of other neutrals (oh, and Gallas too), that Arsenal are starting to lose the plot. They still hold the top spot, but need to stabilise, quickly.

[NeoKubrick]

Neo - my comments were based on my opinion. I don't read newspapers and I am capable of making up my own mind. It looks, to me and plenty of other neutrals (oh, and Gallas too), that Arsenal are starting to lose the plot. They still hold the top spot, but need to stabilise, quickly.
No, we don't to stabilise. What we need is Rosicky, Van Persie and Toure back from injury. After Gallas' Oscar performance, and Senderos' performance against AC Milan, Toure would be a perfect partner for Senderos. Van Persie needs to get fit, because now with Eduardo gone, we desperately need him.

Don't forget that we've been playing without two of best attackers for most of the season. Do you think Man Utd would last a minute without Rooney?

[Gaskin]

Um Renegade, I've always been a 'fan' of Arsenal, and for the past 8 years I've supported Bristol City. My hatred for Tottenham has been about since I was a young child because of growing up with my brother supporting them. Don't try and tell me who I do and don't support lmfao.

[Renegade]

Well then Gaskin, don't try and derail a thread by randomly slagging off a team that have done well and we shall call it a truce lmfaobbqoneoneloleleven. :rolleyes:

*grows up again*

Neo - I agree that Arsenal need to get their tried and tested and reliable players back. I would call this stabilising the ship - same as Utd had to do by getting Rooney back after getting boned by City.

[Gaskin]

Someone has to keep Tottenham off a high horse. They've won the smallest cup they can win in England, congratulations, no sarcasm or anything. But I will praise Tottenham when they win something which is recognisable throughout Europe. I'd love to see them win the Uefa Cup, but quite frankly I can't see it happening.

P.S Lmfao - is an often used abbreviation so to speak, care to explain what lmfaobbqoneoneloleleven means? I mean it must be something hilariously funny?

[Renegade]

When made in a mocking sense, not really. My post wasn't funny, it was an
observation.

Tottenham have won the smallest cup, yes. IF Arsenal bottle the league and lose in Milan, they win nothing. One > Zero. I don't really care who wins what - I would rather Arsenal win the league than United - but belittling something that Arsenal would have quite liked to do well in is bizarre. It's a great achievement.

[NeoKubrick]

Any team but Chelsea.

[Gaskin]

Arsenal would have loved to win the Carling Cup, especially with the side they played throughout the competition. Winning a cup with a rather young side and beating teams playing full line ups would have been an achievement in itself. Oh and even if Arsenal did 'bottle' it, then finishing 2nd in the Premiership is a far greater achievement than winning the Carling cup, be honest.

[Renegade]

Any team but Chelsea.

I dislike Chelsea due to their ownership and sacking of one person who made the Premiership genuinely interesting to watch. I wouldn't lose sleep over it though.

Gaskin - I agree, Spurs would rather finish 2nd than win the Carling Cup I'm sure. However, in the state they were in when Ramos took over, right now I'm sure ever Spurs fan is absolutely on cloud nine right now having won some silverware already.

[BlueHoopedMoose]

[17:54:41] Dan - Love y: They asked me who I supported
[17:54:55] Dan - Love y: I thought it was better to opt for the
Arsenal than Bristol City lol


Sorry Dan but you were an Arsenal fan first, Bristol fan second. Just thought I'd chuck that one in there... ;)

[Gaskin]

I've been a Bristol City fan for eight years roughly. You're just mad that my team will be waving when pass you.

[Renegade]

Sorry Dan but you were an Arsenal fan first, Bristol fan second. Just thought I'd chuck that one in there... ;)

Mwahahaha!

As much as it pains me to say it, I don't think Stoke will be shifted from their position at the top of the Championship.

[Gaskin]

They only went top this weekend, and they're ahead of us by one point. Stoke will drop down again like they did at the start of the season.

[Renegade]

This weekend? They were top after beating Scunthorpe 10 days ago - and I hate to say it but their signings and recent results have been superb.

[Gaskin]

Oh yeah they were joint top, apologies. Yeah they've been on form recently, impressive to say the least. They're definitely in there with promotion favourites.

[Renegade]

I know - and it makes me want to cry :(

[Enraged Wang 07]

Plymouth to go up and the reinstallment of Holloway, i'd love it.

[IcemanLeigh]

Too many idiotic comments to respond to in one post so I will outline it.

The stigma that the Carling cup has got of being the 'mickey mouse' cup and such like is the most ridiculous thing I hear at this very moment in time. It isnt like the top teams arnt in it, it isnt even as if their is some form of handicap system. It is a cup competition alongside any other. The event is admittedly not as prestigious as the FA cup obviously, but you still have to beat the same teams on the way. Spurs beat Arsenal and Chelsea on their way to the victory and have every right to celebrate a superb win for the club. Not only that but it also now gaurentees spurs spot in next seasons Uefa cup, which after research I found out would not have gone to the runner up of the final.

Any spurs fan will admit that we had an awful start to the season, and league wise it has been, and by all probablity will be, an average season. The start of the season was rife with ridiculous board movement effect the stability of the club. Jol was a great manager by all acounts, and I was/am a big fan of his. The decision to bring in ramos to help shape the players that they already have looks to be the right one, but the way they went about it was still wrong. Spurs have beaten Arsenal, Chelsea, and have given Man utd a closer game than they expected and one that we probably should have won, all under the reign of Ramos. It would seem that some really need to take their Arsena.. oh sorry, Bristol city tinted glasses off and stop making rash idiotic comments.

Great acheivement for Spurs and a definite step in the right direction the club as a whole. No idiot is going to stop me celebrating it.

[Spindryer]

Well i didn't get online last night due to my 5-A-Side team winning the 2008 Retailers cup which was the real competition of the night ;)

Just joking, i think from what Ive seen and heard about the game Tottenham ran chelsea ragged for 90mins and then got there just rewards so fair play to them, its been a difficult season for them and i think if they take this wining attitude into the rest of the games this season they could finish on an even higher note.

GG

[Renegade]

Good on you - and as you can tell, I agree with you.

[IcemanLeigh]

Spindryer, you dissapoint me to no end.

I try to group all Arsenal fans in together and dislike them all, then more and more recently you prove to me that there are rational gooners out there after all! Cant you just be like the others! ;)

[nimac]

Someone has to keep Tottenham off a high horse. They've won the smallest cup they can win in England, congratulations, no sarcasm or anything. But I will praise Tottenham when they win something which is recognisable throughout Europe. I'd love to see them win the Uefa Cup, but quite frankly I can't see it happening.

P.S Lmfao - is an often used abbreviation so to speak, care to explain what lmfaobbqoneoneloleleven means? I mean it must be something hilariously funny?

After seeing Terry, Lampard et al's reactions after the match I think even they may not have agreed with your point G!

[Gaskin]

There reaction was like that because they lost to bloody Tottenham. I'd be depressed too!

(Come on I'm fighting to be one of those Gooners Leigh dislikes, don't be dissin up in my house dog.)

[nimac]

There reaction was like that because they lost to bloody Tottenham. I'd be depressed too!

(Come on I'm fighting to be one of those Gooners Leigh dislikes, don't be dissin up in my house dog.)

Did you get a very bad suntan when you were away or something? What's all this homeboy talk?

[Gaskin]

I did actually get a sun tan, thanks for asking. :D

I was kidding with the 'homeboy' talk, as you referred to me as 'G'.

[IcemanLeigh]

There reaction was like that because they lost to bloody Tottenham. I'd be depressed too!


Well that statement is pretty interesting. If at this minute you are an arsenal fan, then you (not you personally but arsenal) did in fact lose to Tottenham. If at this moment in time you are claiming to be Bristol city, then your expectations are far too high and ridiculously deluded. Lets face it, if Bristol city do come up (which I hope they do, I myself, whilst not a fan, would consider myself a follower of the City) then they are going to be celebrating draws against teams like Spurs as if they themselves had just won the Carling cup.

[Gaskin]

I have not stated I am NOT an Arsenal fan. I have stated I support Bristol City and follow Arsenal. I don't see the big problem to be honest, a lot of lower league supporters follow a Premiership side. And my hatred for Tottenham was created by none other than you. But Bristol City v Tottenham next season will be the sex.

[Renegade]

Lower League????

[Gaskin]

Lower League = anything lower than the premiership..

[Renegade]

You serious?

There are over 140 Leagues in England, the top of which (and ANY team in the system can get that high) is the Premier League. Over 7,000 clubs, and after the first 20 it becomes lower league?

Definitely a Premier League supporter...

[Roadpog]

i know your all probably going to slate me for this but i actually prefer watching games from
The Championship and League one, Simply cause the quality and how close the games are compared to them of the premiership.
I know the quality of the players is better in the premiership but i dont think that much of the teams anymore. Tottenham and West Ham are the best teams to watch all the others its mainly about. Ronaldo Adebayor and so on.

But Championship. I just believe the football and the matches are just much better.

[Renegade]

I agree with you Roadpog, especially League One and Two. The leagues are much much closer, there aren't any teams that you would have predicted would be top or bottom back when the season began. A couple of wins can move any team from the corridor of uncertainty to mid-table or higher.

There are very few one man teams, and the excitement is fantastic. It's nice to watch a match in a small but intimate venue too. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed watching matches at Wembley, Nou Camp, Emirates, Old Trafford etc - but there it's a spectacle, a massive arena where you feel completely detached from the players.

There's just something romantic about a freezing cold Tuesday night, going down to your local club that you've supported all your life in your coat and with a hip flask of whiskey in your pocket, and paying less than a tenner to watch a game of football.

[Roadpog]

Possibly free aswell where u just stand at the sidelines cheering on your mates :p
But at least someone agrees with me. I just think its so close you just get more involved in the actual game than having to take in the actual stadium.
Yes the whole crowd in that arena singing is amazing but when your with your local crowd singing its just much better imo

[Gaskin]

You serious?

There are over 140 Leagues in England, the top of which (and ANY team in the system can get that high) is the Premier League. Over 7,000 clubs, and after the first 20 it becomes lower league?

Definitely a Premier League supporter...

That statement is so false it's untrue. Lower league has always been a way of describing leagues 1 - 4, it was only when the Championship was installed that they weren't all called 'lower leagues'. I used the term lower league because Bristol City weren't in the Championship until this season.

Stop telling me what team I support, I mean come on. I have had a season ticket for the past 3 years. And I've been going since the year 2000.


I agree with you Roadpog, especially League One and Two. The leagues are much much closer, there aren't any teams that you would have predicted would be top or bottom back when the season began. A couple of wins can move any team from the corridor of uncertainty to mid-table or higher

Have you even looked at the Championship this year? It's tighter than anything.

Definitely a League One supporter...

[Renegade]

Spurs 2-1 Chelsea. Carling Cup Final.

PM me if you want to get things wrong.

[Gaskin]

As much as it pains me to say it, I don't think Stoke will be shifted from their position at the top of the Championship.

*Cough* http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/table/default.stm

going from strength to strength under Ramos
Great acheivement for Spurs and a definite step in the right direction the club as a whole

*Cough number two* http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7260372.stm


Ah I love being a ****.

[Renegade]

Stoke didn't play today... but yay for them not being top!

Also, Spurs seem to be very hungover from the cup win. They were crap today.

If I wasn't on my PDA I would bring up my quotes about Arsenal bottling it... ;)

[Gaskin]

Yeah stoke played tuesday and lost mate.

Arsenal bottling it? They got a draw against Villa, not a bad result.

[Renegade]

Arsenal were lucky from what I saw.

United were excellent, they played very very well.

And you seem to think I want Stoke to do well? I detest them with every bone in my body!

[Gaskin]

I know but you just said they wouldn't drop from top..

[Renegade]

I did mean top two as I thought Bristol were in third, but yeah fair enough. I hope to God they miss promotion. I mean, as much as a man can hope for anything. The only thing I hope for more is that Crewe stay up.

[Xg Corkin]

Arsenal bottling it? They got a draw against Villa, not a bad result.

No, a draw at home to Aston Villa is a bad result. The gap is now down to 1 point and if you think getting a draw at home agaisnt a team you beat away is a good result then Arsenal are worse than I thought. No wins in four games in all competitions can only be a bad sign for Arsenal.

[NeoKubrick]

Where's Leigh when you need him? ;)

[IcemanLeigh]

Present..

The Birmingham game was a shambles. Havnt seen it and have only read about it. From what I have read the first half was pretty good for spurs and they should have taken a good hold on the game, when they didn't it all fell apart. The league is pretty much on a back burner for spurs at the moment though. However well we are playing and Ramos is organising the team, comnig back from the awful start to the season is near impossible. I still believe we can catch up with the mix, but those lost points were huge really and may have halted that belief. 5 players apparently rested with Carling cup hangovers and Uefa cup in mind I can only assume. Not a massive fan of Zokora as a centre back, he really cant play there and would not be suprised if the make shift defence was mostly to blame.

Even the most League oriented team would have their eye on other things in the same situation as Spurs though. I am a self confessed League buff, always suggesting that the league should be priority, but right now even I can admit that I can understand the looking ahead to Uefa cup games instead of fighting for a lost cause.

The top looks pretty interesting again though doesn't it!

[Gaskin]

No, a draw at home to Aston Villa is a bad result. The gap is now down to 1 point and if you think getting a draw at home agaisnt a team you beat away is a good result then Arsenal are worse than I thought. No wins in four games in all competitions can only be a bad sign for Arsenal.

A draw against AC Milan away a bad result? You're talking out of your backside again Corkin. And a Arsenal side missing some crucial players clinching a draw when they could have walked away with nothing is pretty good actually.

[Dark]

..he said a draw at home to Villa is a bad result because you beat Villa away.
And it was a home draw with AC Milan, which obviously isn't a great result because you would of wanted to use your home advantage.

[Bonzo]

..he said a draw at home to Villa is a bad result because you beat Villa away.
And it was a home draw with AC Milan, which obviously isn't a great result because you would of wanted to use your home advantage.
A draw against AC Milan is better than a loss, and who says Arsenal aren't going to shake AC up at home?

Circumstances change and for Arsenal to score a last minute goal against Villa to draw the game and get a point out of nothing tells you something.

[Xg Corkin]

As Dark said, my point was that Arsenal beat Aston Villa away so a draw at home isn't a great result. (Try reading my post properly before replying next time;)) Also if Arsenal want to win the title you cannot look at a home draw being a good result.

Around four weeks ago Arsenal were five points clear, in the FA Cup and still in the Champions League. Now they are out of the FA Cup, only one point clear and if they go out tonight then that would definitely be bottling it. ;)

EDIT: Not forgeting the Mickey Mouse Cup :) :)

[IcemanLeigh]

As Dark said, my point was that Arsenal beat Aston Villa away so a draw at home isn't a great result. (Try reading my post properly before replying next time;)) Also if Arsenal want to win the title you cannot look at a home draw being a good result.

Around four weeks ago Arsenal were five points clear, in the FA Cup and still in the Champions League. Now they are out of the FA Cup, only one point clear and if they go out tonight then that would definitely be bottling it. ;)

Dont forget the Carling cup..

[Gaskin]

No wins in four games in all competitions can only be a bad sign for Arsenal.

I was replying to that you pleb. Don't tell me to read your post clearly when you're simply not bright enough to see which part of the post I was replying to. How about you read MY post clearly.

A home draw when you're losing 1-0 and equalising in the last minute IS a good result. Man united fan boys get on my tits.

[Roadpog]

Actually Arsenal should of won that. Home advantage and a much better side than Villa.
And also a lucky goal in the last minute isn't something Arsenal need to be doing.
They need to win with just 1pt in the premier league now. It can only get worse. Anymore draws will be a major setback and they also need Man Utd to start loosing.

It's gonna be a nail biting finish just hope Arsenal can make it their

[Gaskin]

Home advantage talk makes me laugh.
And when you're struggling against a side and you have the power to get a last minute goal and get a draw, it's a moral booster.

[Renegade]

A home draw when you're losing 1-0 and equalising in the last minute IS a good result. Man united fan boys get on my tits.

It's a relief. It's not a good result. The way to think about it is:

Forget what time the goal was scored and what happened during the game - before the game kicked off, would you have been happy with 1-1 at home against Villa?

Arsenal fan boys drive me mental.

[Xg Corkin]

No wins in four games in all competitions can only be a bad sign for Arsenal.

I was replying to that you pleb. Don't tell me to read your post clearly when you're simply not bright enough to see which part of the post I was replying to. How about you read MY post clearly.

Sorry but you posted this :

A draw against AC Milan away a bad result?

Could you please tell me when the **** Arsenal played AC Milan away you pleb. Arsenal fanboys get on my tits.

[Gaskin]

Yeah someone corrected me previously, Arsenal played AC Milan at home. But you said no wins in four games in all competitions is a bad sign, no, a draw against AC milan is a good result. I'm not an Arsenal fan boy, I actually see things with reason (unless tottenham are involved.) and I follow the club as I have since a boy because of the football they play is magnificent.

[Dark]

No way do you see things with reason, no way.

Good performance by Arsenal today anyway, AC Milan are ****ed atm.

And Man U did ok, bit frustrating with all the bad final 3rd balls though.
Lets hope that Livpool and Chelsea will win tomorrow and make it 4 English teams in the quarters.

[Gaskin]

Arsenal played very well today. That should shut up some idiotic comments.

Edit: LOL sorry just saw Renegade posted. I didn't see it as Crewe fans usually talk nonsense.

A 1-1 result against Villa at home, isn't the best result no. But in the circumstances that occured, it was a good result. But you nublets are talking like Villa are a bad side, they're 6th in the league and have looked good all season.

On a lighter note, Bristol City drawing away at Charlton to retain their place at the top of the Championship. Sick.

[kHz HaVoK]

Played AC of the pitch and deserved the win!

Fabregas and Helb controlled the game for me...

[NeoKubrick]

They all went suddenly quiet didn't they?

Manchester United went to the San Siro and got played off the park, last year. Arsenal went there without their best striker and one of their best midfielders and played AC Milan off the park and gave them a right shellacking in their fortress. I was slightly worried around the 20 minute mark as AC Milan were stringing passes together and looking deadly, but Fabregas and Flamini grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and never let Milan play. I think we missed a clinical finisher in front of goal such as Van Persie, but luckily Fabregas scored a fantastic goal, which it had to be to beat a very impressive Kalac - he kept AC in the game in my opinion. You could argue that AC Milan were missing a bit of guile from Seedorf, but Fabregas and Flamini owned the middle of the park, and all Milan could hope for was the long ball and supplying Kaka' the ball to run at the Arsenal defence.

AC Milan 0 - 2 Arsenal

Continue to natter away, haters. ;)

[Xg Corkin]

Top marks to Arsenal for completely playing AC Milan off the pitch even if AC Milan aren't the greatest team atm.

Still think it's a matter of time until Man United take over Arsenal in the premership.

[Bushmouseone]

Livpool and Chelsea will win tomorrow and make it 4 English teams in the quarters.

Liverpool dont play today in the Champions League
Their playing West Ham

[kHz HaVoK]

Yeh but still chelsea will win :D

Liverpool ave to play next week as both milan's were at home this week!

[NeoKubrick]

Where's Leigh and Corthag when you need them? ;)

[Gaskin]

I think they might be still celebrating that Carling Cup victory. It's also the only explanation I can think of that defends Tottenham's performances against Birmingham and PSV..

[IcemanLeigh]

You clearly didn't watch the game then if you are commenting on the performance against PSV..

The goal was given away by debutant Gilberto who looked shockingly defensively throughout the whole first half, hense why he didnt start the second. On the whole though, Spurs looked okay, the final ball just wasn't there. Couple of half chances, and a few that really should have been put away. All in all though, could have been better and they will know that for the second leg. I would go out on a limb though and say that 1-0 was an unjust scoreline, a draw probably more so. Off to eindhoven to try and get a result..

[Gaskin]

I did watch the PSV game lol. And they didn't look like a carling cup winning side to me.

[IcemanLeigh]

Where's NeoKubrick when you need him? ;)

[NeoKubrick]

Where's NeoKubrick when you need him? ;)
Can't complain.

We have Champions League football next season. We're in the quarters finals, and this team will be tough to beat as the youngsters always seem up for big games, not necessarily the games against the likes of Wigan. We'll be one point behind Manchester United provided they win their game in hand, which they'll probably will win. So, in the perspective of all the hacks plotting the downfall of Arsenal after the departure of Henry, it's been a great season, which will only get better now with Van Persie fit enough to play and soon, match-fit.