Liverpool

[Spindryer]

RE: Liverpool 2 - 0 Inter Milian

What a difference a few days make hey? Watching the Inter game you have to wonder why are they they so far from the title race and why is Benitez up for the chop ?

[kHz HaVoK]

I just wonder how much they paid the ref!

[IcemanLeigh]

They played pretty well but you have to say that alot of the ascendancy was gained through the sending off of Materazzi and the crowd urging them on. They deserved the win though no doubt about that. They had about 70 minutes of full on ascendancy and still didnt really look like scoring. That is the big problem for Liverpool if you ask me. Inter keeper only really had to make one stop (apart from the two goals) and then Kuyt got a fairly lucky goal and Gerrard scored yet another wonder strike.

I like seeing Liverpool win, I really have nothing against them but they dont half flatter themselves in the Champions League do they!

[Roadpog]

They played well but 30 mins into the game Inter we're down to 10 men.
They exploited this and as Icemanleigh says They don't look like scoring.
i mean with Torres and kuyt you should be popping in goals all day.
And icemanleigh Fifa match? Groub B thing cause im Bored :'[

[DinnyHoon]

I don't know what Rafa feeds the players before every CL match, but it brings out the best in each and every player on the pitch, even Kuyt (!). The 4-5-1 was an incorrect decision if we wanted to score goals, but it didn't half put the visitors under pressure throughout the first half. At 60 minutes, Pennant and Crouch replaced Babel and Lucas, creating the 4-4-2 we should have started with. And what happened then? Their defence was blown wide open, and we got 2 goals in 5 minutes.

[jodahunter]

Referee was a ****ing disgrace.

[kHz HaVoK]

Playing against 10 men for 60mins was easy for them, if the ref wasn't a liverpool fan inter would have had 11 men and imo beat liverpool! inter lasted 80mins with 10men and i think liverpool had about 4 chances before the goal, 1 lucky goal at that but gerrard did what he does best after and scores a peach!

Everyone's saying liverpool are threw already, highly doubt it, going to the san siro and stoppin inter from scoring is going to be hard, saying that if liverpool score first it's over!

Inter can blame the ref for going out, fukin disgrace...

[DinnyHoon]

We're nowhere near through. We still have to score at the San Siro. I believe that if we score first in Milan, we're all but through to the quarters.

[Corthag]

Terrible referee. The sending off ruined the game for a neutral.

[Renegade]

I will support any British team in Europe, and as such thought last night was tremendous!

[kHz HaVoK]

Excellent result for liverpool but a poor game!

[Terbinator]

" you'll neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr get a job" :D

[nimac]

You can blame the referee all you want but Liverpool still had a job to do. As Kon rightly pointed out Liverpool have lacked scoring options all season and once Inter shut up shop when they went down to 10 men Liverpool you always felt wouldn't /couldn't get the goal.
Kuyt I thought was pretty ineffective again but just as the game looked dead in the water up he pops with a goal....so what if it took a bit of a deflection.......he picked that one up from the Lampard school of Deflected goals!!!
Once we got the 1st goal we looked like we could have gone on to make it 3 or 4 but time wasn't on our side, let's not forgot this is a team that haven't lost in 5 months. Liverpool got beat by Barnsley at the weekend so to say it was a great win is an understatement but as always I won't be getting carried away because even though Liverpool come up with great performances they still aren't offering consistency and that is the biggest downfall at the minute.
Roll on the 2nd leg, it will be very hard but if we can get the 1st goal then it's a hell of a task for Inter and they will be missing that big Italian Halian Materazzi :)

[Terbinator]

come on united, we gotta be running rings round lyon tonight

[DinnyHoon]

" you'll neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr get a job" :D

In Istanbul, we won it 5 times.

Oh, and none of our players/supporters/citizens are inbred.

[Bonzo]

Sending off of Materazi was a disgrace but i didnt feel sorry for him, i hate him because he elbowed shearer in the face a few years ago.

Liverpool have such a strong midfield now IMO.

[Terbinator]

Oh, and none of our players/supporters/citizens are inbred.

but there all qualified thieves. you even rob players who play for your city, i forget you havent won the premiership aswell. seen as liverpools the capital of cultre now does that mean peoples cars will be put up on books rather tham bricks when there wheel trims have been stolen?

[Bonzo]

I'm not from Liverpool and even i find that post insulting.

GG GG.

[DinnyHoon]

but there all qualified thieves. you even rob players who play for your city, i forget you havent won the premiership aswell. seen as liverpools the capital of cultre now does that mean peoples cars will be put up on books rather tham bricks when there wheel trims have been stolen?

No, it simply means that we stand on the manc scum's throats one more time as the greatest city the world has ever known. New York, Shanghai, Singapore - all modeled on the skyline of the mighty Liverpool. It was our city's name that was on the front of the Titanic. It is our cathedral that is the largest anglican place of worship on Earth. It was our band that became the best and most famous the world has ever seen. And it is our football club that is the most successful in Britain. And by the way, it's "let them KNOW it's Christmas time", you retarded little inbred.

On topic: The first thing Inter will do in 3 weeks is grab us on the counter attack, so we better have Carra and Hyypia fit. Mascherano needs to play behind Stevie, Torres et al to pickpocket any player who tries to take him on. If we get the first goal, we'll be celebrating in front of a mostly emtpy San Siro, because all the Inter fans would have gone home.

[Jimmy Bones]

but there all qualified thieves. you even rob players who play for your city, i forget you havent won the premiership aswell. seen as liverpools the capital of cultre now does that mean peoples cars will be put up on books rather tham bricks when there wheel trims have been stolen?Manchester eh? Guns, gangs n' cotton http://www.psychoholiday.com/uploader/files/1/thumbup.gif

[Terbinator]

get a back bone Bonzo. Liverpool clealry arent the most succesful team in britain, id put them 3rd at most behind united and arsenal obviously. does anybody really giv a toss about liverpool? Ringo Starr clearly doesnt and hes from there, are u even a scouser? the citys in that bad of a state that the scousers flock to manchester city centre and create the ambient noise of a revving car engine every where u go becuase of that devine accent they have all bin blessed with which sounds like your constantly trying to get flem up, and technically the beatles are owned by a paedophile, goes by the name of jacko. belive me mate you got nout to brag about.

[Renegade]

This has got sod all to do with the match last night, if you want to start offensive arguments about where people are from, find somewhere else to do it!

Looking forward to the Arsenal v Milan game tonight - should be a cracker, and we should be able to see what Arsenal are made of! Even though Milan aren't doing too well in Serie A, they're still a very strong outfit and an extremely tough challenge for Arsenal.

[DinnyHoon]

get a back bone Bonzo. Liverpool clealry arent the most succesful team in britain, id put them 3rd at most behind united and arsenal obviously.

You, son, are a ****ing idiot. Success isn't opinion. It's fact. The fact is that Liverpool have won more trophies than any other British club, you retard.

does anybody really giv a toss about liverpool? Ringo Starr clearly doesnt and hes from there

Yeah, we'll all forget about all the scouse stars that still speak so highly of the city, including Paul McCartney. Jesus Christ. Who's Manchester's role model? Liam ****ing Gallagher!

are u even a scouser?

Yup.

the citys in that bad of a state that the scousers flock to manchester city centre

Seriously, you're just making yourself sound 2 years old now. In case you haven't seen Liverpool in the last 5 years, it's practically impossible to buy a place here, and the government are pumping money into the Capital of Culture like custard into a fat kid.

and create the ambient noise of a revving car engine every where u go becuase of that devine accent they have all bin blessed with which sounds like your constantly trying to get flem up

Oh yeah I forgot, da manchesta aksent is fukkin' wicked, man. MADFERET!

and technically the beatles are owned by a paedophile, goes by the name of jacko

Hahahaha, that's the worst (and only) anti-Bealtes argument I've ever heard. The Beatles wrote some of the greatest songs of the 20th century, and are the most successful band of all time. And as for Michael Jackson, he sold the rights to the Beatles songs back to Apple records years ago, you philistine.

belive me mate you got nout to brag about.

Do I have to repeat my "Our city" speech again? Because I've updated it to include our role in supporting the British Empire.

EDIT: I'm bound to get a warning for this glorious post, so to keep myself unbanned (and so I can just sit back and laugh at your inevitable grammar-free dribble), this is my last anti-scumlord post ITT.

[Spindryer]

The passion always has come out more in these football threads, i think as long as ppl keep it at least semi-civil i don't think there's any harm in airing your views about football.

[Dark]

DinnyHoon seriuosly you have problems.Stop spouting all this **** about how good liverpool is, seriously nobody cares.

London is much better then Liverpool anyway.

[Jimmy Bones]

The passion always has come out more in these football threads, i think as long as ppl keep it at least semi-civil i don't think there's any harm in airing your views about football.Passion?but there all qualified thieves. you even rob players who play for your city, i forget you havent won the premiership aswell. seen as liverpools the capital of cultre now does that mean peoples cars will be put up on books rather tham bricks when there wheel trims have been stolen?That's football passion? There's no harm in posting these "views" about football?

[Renegade]

get a back bone Bonzo. Liverpool clealry arent the most succesful team in britain, id put them 3rd at most behind united and arsenal obviously. does anybody really giv a toss about liverpool? Ringo Starr clearly doesnt and hes from there, are u even a scouser? the citys in that bad of a state that the scousers flock to manchester city centre and create the ambient noise of a revving car engine every where u go becuase of that devine accent they have all bin blessed with which sounds like your constantly trying to get flem up, and technically the beatles are owned by a paedophile, goes by the name of jacko. belive me mate you got nout to brag about.

That's not a damn football argument. That's some pathetic grudge that is derailing the thread, and offending plenty in the process.

[Spindryer]

Passion?That's football passion? There's no harm in posting these "views" about football?

Bags of it.

[Bushmouseone]

London is much better then Liverpool anyway.

Fulham or Chelsea

Fulham & Chelsea
1.) how many times have they won premiership*
2.) How many times have they won Champions League**
3.) How many times have they made Champions League Final***

Liverpool
1.) how many times have they won premiership
2.) How many times have they won Champions League
3.) How many times have they made Champions League Final

Fulham:
Won the premiership 0 times
Won the Champions league 0 times
Made it into Champions League Finals 0 times

Chelsea:
Won the premiership 3 times (1954–55, 2004–05, 2005–06)
Won the Champions League 2 times (1971, 1998)
Made it to Champions League 0 times

Liverpool
Won the premiership 18 times (1900–01, 1905–06, 1921–22, 1922–23, 1946–47, 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90 )
Won the Champions League 5 times (1977, 1978, 1981, 1984, 2005)
Made the Champions Legue final 2 times (1985, 2007)

Notes:
* = Including First Division
** = Including UEFA Cup Winners Cup
*** = Runners Up - (Sound better)

Im a Manchester United fan and will take as much abuse as the next person, but there is no need to insult people by being a total prick, for something that is based on stereotypes.

Extra Note / Knowledge
Does anybody care to recall what a "SCUM" is in football terms? (just for you dinny)
I do . It is infact what i would have become.

It stands for Southampton, Construction, Union, Member

It all started when portsmouth construcion members went on stike. Portsmouth goverment got Southampton's construction workers to come in and do the job.

Now if anybody wants to take the Piss out of that, go ahead, but i assure you, you will get the biggest ammount of abuse of me. And if i ever meet you, i will personally beat the holy sh!t into you.

I take great offence to the use of this word, especially if someone doesnt know what it means

EDIT: I know i forgot some teams but i will post them later. They still wont add up to the Acheivments Liverpool have accomplished

[Dark]

Oh no the word scum means something, why the hell is that so offensive?

Um why pick Fulham to compare with Liverpool?

[jodahunter]

There are other teams in London than Fulham and Chelsea....

[Bushmouseone]

Oh no the word scum means something, why the hell is that so offensive?

Becuase i, was born in southampton.
And my grandad was "SCUM".

There are other teams in London than Fulham and Chelsea....

Will post later. Too busy with GoW2

[DinnyHoon]

Er, scum is defined as the dirt and grime that clogs up things like sinks and toilets. Nothing to do with Southampton.

[Bushmouseone]

Er, scum is defined as the dirt and grime that clogs up things like sinks and toilets. Nothing to do with Southampton.

Scum origonated from southampton, as i have explained above:

If you need more information see this page:
http://home.clara.net/anvil/scumskates.htm

[DinnyHoon]

Seriously, nothing to do with Southampton.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scum

[Bushmouseone]

o.k

Extra Note / Knowledge
Does anybody care to recall what a "SCUM" is in football terms? (just for you dinny)

[Bonzo]

o.k

Extra Note / Knowledge
Does anybody care to recall what a "SCUM" is in football terms? (just for you dinny)
Please explain, what the hell you are talking about.

[Bushmouseone]

Please explain, what the hell you are talking about.

I dont like that the word SCUM is thrown around casually, and people think it doesnt offend people.

It offends me as it has some background to Southampton, and my grandfather.

[Jimmy Bones]

I dont like that the word SCUM is thrown around casually, and people think it doesnt offend people.People say it because they think it wont (and shouldn't) offend people.

edit: i meant people dont think it will offend Southamptoners.

[Bonzo]

I dont like that the word SCUM is thrown around casually, and people think it doesnt offend people.

It offends me as it has some background to Southampton, and my grandfather.
It's used by immature people on forums, who proberly don't know what it means.

[jodahunter]

Extra Note / Knowledge
Does anybody care to recall what a "SCUM" is in football terms? (just for you dinny)
I do . It is infact what i would have become.

It stands for Southampton, Construction, Union, Member

It all started when portsmouth construcion members went on stike. Portsmouth goverment got Southampton's construction workers to come in and do the job.

Now if anybody wants to take the Piss out of that, go ahead, but i assure you, you will get the biggest ammount of abuse of me. And if i ever meet you, i will personally beat the holy sh!t into you.

I take great offence to the use of this word, especially if someone doesnt know what it means


You need to explain what that has to do in football terms mate.

And after looking through the thread and seeing that this is the use of the word scum:

No, it simply means that we stand on the manc scum's throats

Then i am even more confused by what the **** you are trying to say.

He was quite obviously using the sense of the word defined by the wikipedia page he linked to and also by the definition given in that oxford English dictionary thing....

[Renegade]

Christ, scum is a word used in the context of belittling someone by making them appear like a piece of dirt or grime. It's not to do with Southampton Unions or anything - yes, that's the origin of the word, but in no way was it used in that context. I bet you've called people a prick without meaning a small sharp piercing, or called someone a c0ck without meaning a male chicken. Words may originate in one place and be used completely differently - it has absolutely nothing to do with your grandad or the origin of the word at all in the context it was used here.

Good result for United tonight, away at Lyon is never easy and now it's back to Old Trafford. Not an ideal result for Arsenal, I wouldn't be betting on them taking anything from Milan now. Unlucky Celtic - I desperately wanted them to hold on.

[jodahunter]

Christ, scum is a word used in the context of belittling someone by making them appear like a piece of dirt or grime. It's not to do with Southampton Unions or anything - yes, that's the origin of the word, but in no way was it used in that context. I bet you've called people a prick without meaning a small sharp piercing, or called someone a c0ck without meaning a male chicken. Words may originate in one place and be used completely differently - it has absolutely nothing to do with your grandad or the origin of the word at all in the context it was used here.

Good result for United tonight, away at Lyon is never easy and now it's back to Old Trafford. Not an ideal result for Arsenal, I wouldn't be betting on them taking anything from Milan now. Unlucky Celtic - I desperately wanted them to hold on.


Thank **** for that. Hopefully bushmouseone can shut the **** up and go and have a gay life.

[kHz HaVoK]

@ bushmouse:- How can u say liverpool has won the premiership 18 times and it's only been going around that long?

As far as i'm awear liverpool have won the premiership ZERO times!

[jodahunter]

Yeah you did only put the asterisk on the chelsea and fulham part of it.

[Roadpog]

To be honest not alot of people know what i means so they'll use it to a extent.
If it offends you it won't bother them cause they don't mean it in that context and they'll continue to use it

[Terbinator]

i apologise for the upset i clealry sparked with my post, but obviously people need to realise that the smiley face indicates the post was light hearted and not meant be takin in a serious way, im sure we can all forget this now and turn bk to the original attraction of this thread.

[Roadpog]

Liverpool are Rubbish and need to pick up their game? Next year if they do the same as this year i think players like Torres and Kuyt may move if not even this year

[Enraged Wang 07]

Liverpool are a team of Names these days, and you get nowhere with just names.

Kuyt is innefective, Hyypia is too slow and Aurelio just isn't talented enough.

Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano and Finnan are the only players i truly think are the ones who can change liverpool's, in my opinion, abysmal season so far.

[Roadpog]

I agree with you on that Although Gerrard isnt all that. yea he scores some wonderous goals but he does loose the ball quite often.

Torres i believe will leave this year as Man UTD or Tottenham will buy him. Tottenham have looked into buying Torres but never put forward a Offer so maybe in between u might see a change

[Enraged Wang 07]

Ferguson had the chance to buy him the past two summers but didn't want him.

I don't think he'll move anywhere else in the premiership, Real Madrid is the only place i can see him leaving for.

[Bushmouseone]

It's used by immature people on forums, who proberly don't know what it means.

Exactly, thank you bonzo

Thank **** for that. Hopefully bushmouseone can shut the **** up and go and have a gay life.

No.

@ bushmouse:- How can u say liverpool has won the premiership 18 times and it's only been going around that long?

As far as i'm awear liverpool have won the premiership ZERO times!

I included First Division

Liverpool are Rubbish and need to pick up their game? Next year if they do the same as this year i think players like Torres and Kuyt may move if not even this year

There going through a bad spell, all fans will know about this. Rafa's a good manager, dont throw out managers so easily.
Look at newcastle, they keep changing managers - Has it done any good? - They got Keegan back, but have yet to get a win

[DinnyHoon]

Liverpool are a team of Names these days, and you get nowhere with just names.

Kuyt is innefective, Hyypia is too slow and Aurelio just isn't talented enough.

I agree, Kuyt can be pretty damn useless most of the time. I think Aurelio's a great player though, and Hyypia's on good form at the moment.

Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano and Finnan are the only players i truly think are the ones who can change liverpool's, in my opinion, abysmal season so far.

Torres, yup, Stevie, yup, Mascherano, yup, Finnan, yu- wait, what? Finnan only ever plays well in Europe. In the Premiership, he kills pace, fails to stop wing attacks and is a complete liability.

I agree with you on that Although Gerrard isnt all that. yea he scores some wonderous goals but he does loose the ball quite often.

Did I just read that correctly? Like him or not, Steven Gerrard is one of the best midfielders in the world, and hits the most accurate long balls I have ever seen. If it wasn't for Gerrard's captaincy, Liverpool would be performing much much worse than they already are doing. Let's not forget that this man is seen by Fabio Capello as the best man to lead the country in international matches.

Torres i believe will leave this year as Man UTD or Tottenham will buy him. Tottenham have looked into buying Torres but never put forward a Offer so maybe in between u might see a change

Again, you're talking out of your gluteus maximus. Liverpool payed £21m for Torres, who has dreamed of playing for the club all his life. He scores whenever he's so much as a train stop away from the ball, and is a fan favourite. He's not going to leave his dream club, where his spanish manager praises him, to go to United or Spurs. Can the latter even afford him?

[MofoDmo]

Scum = Greenock Morton, Rangers and Celtic [and Spurs to an extent :p]

Do i win? :)

[BlueHoopedMoose]

Scum = Greenock Morton, Rangers and Celtic [and Spurs to an extent :p]

Do i win? :)

no...

Scum = Oxford or Swindon Town.

[Renegade]

Pfft - Scum is defined in every dictionary ever written as Stoke City.

[nimac]

I think Kon or a.n.other moderator should wade in here and deal some bans or close the thread. Following on from the post that was made the other week about the amount of Spam....this thread has been obliterated with tripe, majority of which isn't even anywhere near the topic.

[NeoKubrick]

You know, football gets you down. Liverpool are just plain lucky, and I'd go as far as to say, if anyone should have been sent off, it should have been Torres for diving theatrically twice under soft Materazzi challenges. I knew Liverpool were going to score, because Mancini isn't smart enough manager to know that making the midfield the battelground instead of his own penalty area is a good tactic - especially against a Liverpool side whose attack is summed up thusly: long ball or Gerrard. Manchester United should have been put to the sword.

Arsenal play the best football of any of the British teams, and only manage a draw. That's football. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we'll beat AC Milan at the San Siro. The fact that Arsenal didn't concede an away goal may save them, and AC Milan know that if they concede, they then have to score two. I think it'll be a case of whoever scores first; if Milan score then it's shut-up shop.

[DinnyHoon]

a Liverpool side whose attack is summed up thusly: long ball or Gerrard.

Haha, so true :p

[Corthag]

As argued above the word scum does have some relevance to Scumhampton, i mean Southamapton to do with striking workers but it has many different meanings now.
And yes Spurs could afford Torres remember we are the 11th richest team in the world and if we can spend £16.5m on bent...

[Xg Corkin]

@Bushmouseone - Then why in your post did you say Won the Premership 18 times instead of saying won the First Division 18 times.

Everybody knows Liverpool are **** nowadays and all their fans can do is look at the past when they actually used to be a title winning team.

As for the Champions league from the highlights I saw off Arsenal I cannot believe how Arsenal didn't score and tbh I think that will cost them when they go the San Siro. United where clearly the better team agaisnt Lyon and deserved the draw.

[DinnyHoon]

Everybody knows Liverpool are **** nowadays and all their fans can do is look at the past when they actually used to be a title winning team.

Yeah, I always look back to all those years ago, when we stopped Inter Milan's 5-month unbeaten run by beating them 2-0 in the biggest competition in club football. People were saying Inter were the best club in Europe at that time.

Oh wait.

[kHz HaVoK]

Yeah, I always look back to all those years ago, when we stopped Inter Milan's 5-month unbeaten run by beating them 2-0 in the biggest competition in club football. People were saying Inter were the best club in Europe at that time.

Oh wait.

Well done, beating a team with 10men is a great achievement, 5 month unbeaten run in the italian league (not that hard wen theres onli milan and roma to compete with) :rolleyes:
On a side note, what else have liverpool done this season? Sweet FA a-part from making the headlines for getting beat by barnsley:rolleyes:

Liverpool used to be a good team but now there just a top 8 team in the premiership along with spurs, everton, man city...

[DinnyHoon]

Well done, beating a team with 10men is a great achievement, 5 month unbeaten run in the italian league (not that hard wen theres onli milan and roma to compete with) :rolleyes:
On a side note, what else have liverpool done this season? Sweet FA a-part from making the headlines for getting beat by barnsley:rolleyes:

Liverpool used to be a good team but now there just a top 8 team in the premiership along with spurs, everton, man city...

Yeah, remember when Spurs got to the CL final twice in 3 years?

Christ almighty, you must be the most fickle person in the world. Liverpool are having a horrific domestic season, no-one can deny that. But 10 men or not, that win against Inter was big. They've been unbeaten since September in all competitions, and your opinion of the average quality of Serie A is laughable at best. "there's only Milan and Roma". Fiorentina? Lazio? Juve? Let's not forget that the 2 Milan teams are thought of as the 2 best teams on the continent, because of their success in the domestic league.

I can't believe I've just had to justify a 2-0 win over Inter Milan. Jesus.

[kHz HaVoK]

Yeah, remember when Spurs got to the CL final twice in 3 years?

Christ almighty, you must be the most fickle person in the world. Liverpool are having a horrific domestic season, no-one can deny that. But 10 men or not, that win against Inter was big. They've been unbeaten since September in all competitions, and your opinion of the average quality of Serie A is laughable at best. "there's only Milan and Roma". Fiorentina? Lazio? Juve? Let's not forget that the 2 Milan teams are thought of as the 2 best teams on the continent, because of their success in the domestic league.

I can't believe I've just had to justify a 2-0 win over Inter Milan. Jesus.

Horrific domestic season this season? haha try the last 3/4 season, what have use had to shout about except the Champions league in the last 3/4 years? Nothinggggggg :eek:

Lazio, fiorentina and juve are all crap this year compared to roma and the 2 milans, thats like saying everton, and liverpool are up with teams like chelsea, arsenal and united. there not and to go 5months unbeatin in that league for inter was easy!

All liverpool fans shout about is the champions league, beating inter in the CL (with 10men) does not make them a good team!

[BlueHoopedMoose]

On a side note, what else have liverpool done this season?

And what have Man Utd "done" this season? Or Arsenal? Or Chelsea? Think you may find the answer (in the context you are using) is "Bugger all"

[Roadpog]

To be hones if you compare teams on the past years and not on the future i think you'll find a suprise!

Liverpool for instance have a great line up just need to put it together and next season i think will be that season for them.
Tottenham and Everton will have a great season next year as well with the players and talent coming in this year a few suprises next year maybe?

Chelsea never used to be that good 5 years ago? runners up to the Premiership and division one for 50 years?

Man utd and Arsenal are the best teams out there this season IMO. They got the money and they got the players and they got the managers Close contest this year, stop slating
Liverpool for a bad season i mean look at Newcastle, All i can say is atleast they're in the Premier League and CL and so on. If you slate about Liverpools performance maybe you should slate everyones performance for not doing anything for the past 3/4 years?

[Xg Corkin]

And what have Man Utd "done" this season? Or Arsenal? Or Chelsea? Think you may find the answer (in the context you are using) is "Bugger all"

All still in title contention, Still in Fa Cup, chelsea in the final of carling Cup and all still in Champs League, Man United won the Community Shield!

Liverpool:
Still in title contention: NO
FA Cup: NO
Carling Cup Final: NO

Only think they can play for is the champs league and lets be honest, they won't win it!

[Roadpog]

Money can buy you lots of things and the Players is one of them
Main reason why still in contention Liverpool have the money have the players just need the heart and lets be hones
CL Liverpool may win you can't predict just yet.

[BlueHoopedMoose]

All still in title contention, Still in Fa Cup, chelsea in the final of
carling Cup and all still in Champs League, Man United won the Community Shield!

Liverpool:
Still in title contention: NO
FA Cup: NO
Carling Cup Final: NO

Contention yes. Done anything? No. Till they've won anything then your entire point is complete bollocks - at the moment they've all "done" the same, which isn't much. Look at this way - Liverpool could get through this round and Man Utd could not. If Man Utd then lose the league (a possibility) and the FA Cup (also a possibility) then which team (Man Utd or Liverpool) has "done" more?

Oh yeah...

Man United won the Community Shield!

**** me - seen some desperation in my life but that is shocking.

[kHz HaVoK]

The community shield is the top 2 teams in england plying against each other most the time so its still and good achievement to win it!

[Roadpog]

Community shield isnt always the top 2 teams it was chelsea last year maybe its Man u Arsenal this year? then chelsea isnt in the top 2 teams in england playing so community shield is bollocks.

Big things to win are premier league and FA cup None have been won

[kHz HaVoK]

The community shield is the top 2 teams in england plying against each other most the time so its still and good achievement to win it!

Yeh but none of which liverpool can win :p

[Roadpog]

The only reason Liverpool cant get up is like why all the other teams cant get up there.
To be fair i dont watch the premiership much anymore cause its the same out come every year the top 4 are the same year in year out
And the only team that wins is the one with the most money that can buy the best players
I've always thought like that and tbf its true

I support Forrest and since they have gone down due to all best players are sold back in the day. now there football aint as great but theres much more passion for that team than there is for most because we are fighting for promotion. Fighting to get up there. More passion in it that Qualifying for another tournament.

So Liverpool are just another old school Chelsea cant win anything cant get anything but years to come they get big again. Just wait for a few years you'll see

[kHz HaVoK]

So Liverpool are just another old school Chelsea cant win anything cant get anything but years to come they get big again. Just wait for a few years you'll see

How come, chelsea had no money back then but liverpool have a load of money to buy quality players so i don't know how you can compare liverpool to and old school chelsea, with the money and players liverpool have they should be winning game after game :rolleyes:

[Roadpog]

i see what u mean my point is void :p

[DinnyHoon]

How come, chelsea had no money back then but liverpool have a load of money to buy quality players so i don't know how you can compare liverpool to and old school chelsea, with the money and players liverpool have they should be winning game after game :rolleyes:

Shall I get back to the main issue of Liverpool before you start talking out of your fallopian tubes again? Rafael Benitez and his rotation system have destroyed Liverpool's domestic season. rafa only seems to concentrate on the high-tempo games, such as the rest of the big 4, and the Champion's League. Getting knocked out by Barnsley was a disgrace, but the players are only 10% of the blame can go on the players. The manager is so busy fussing with the yanks to create a decent training system each week it would seem. Week after week, world class players go out there, looking like they've never played with each other their entire lives. Most of them make no genuine effort to prove themselves, because with the rotation system, you could score 8 goals in 10 minutes and you'll still be warming the benches for the next 2 weeks.

2 players Benitez needs to play more are Ryan Babel and Peter Crouch. These men try, and try, and try. Babel's pace turns every match on its head whenever he touches the pitch, and Crouch could easily average a goal a match with his head in a suitcase filled with lettuce. Liverpool are one of the best teams in Europe, and that is proven by their performance every Tuesday/Wednesday in the Champions' League. 2 finals in 3 years. They are definitely not one of the best teams in England though. What Benitez needs to get into his skull is that domestically, he has it all wrong. Oh, and Kuyt is utter ****.

[Bonzo]

Shall I get back to the main issue of Liverpool before you start talking out of your fallopian tubes again?
Burnt!

I agree with you, especially about Kuyt.

[kHz HaVoK]

Sorry but saying Liverpool are a good side because they beat a 10 men Inter is complete bullshit. They aren't anywhere near as good as Arsenal, Chelsea or Man Utd and anybody who watches football would know that.

Contention yes. Done anything? No. Till they've won anything then your entire point is complete bollocks - at the moment they've all "done" the same, which isn't much. Look at this way - Liverpool could get through this round and Man Utd could not. If Man Utd then lose the league (a possibility) and the FA Cup (also a possibility) then which team (Man Utd or Liverpool) has "done" more?

Oh yeah...

No, they haven't done the same. We have got further in the FA Cup, were 2nd in the league and still in the Champions League. Even if we get put out of all those cups we will have finished above them in the League and got further in the FA Cup which means we have done better.

Liverpool are having a horrific domestic season, no-one can deny that

Liverpool have been having horrific domestic seasons since the ****ing Premership started :)

2 players Benitez needs to play more are Ryan Babel and Peter Crouch.

Babel is average at best. Anytime I have seen him play he has under performed massively.

EDIT: Posted by Xg Corkin

[Roadpog]

Man Utd supporter? you just cant reason with them
Cause man utd is the best and they win everyting and they have carryano ronaldo and so on and so forth no point of this thread anymore as it just becomes more violent

Liverpool are having a bad season End of its not that every year

[Xg Corkin]

Man Utd supporter? you just cant reason with them
Cause man utd is the best and they win everyting and they have carryano ronaldo and so on and so forth no point of this thread anymore as it just becomes more violent

Liverpool are having a bad season End of its not that every year

Sorry but could you speak English please ;)

[Spindryer]

Man Utd supporter? you just cant reason with them
Cause man utd is the best and they win everyting and they have carryano ronaldo and so on and so forth no point of this thread anymore as it just becomes more violent

Liverpool are having a bad season End of its not that every year

I wish things were that black and white, but the truth of the matter there is every chance Liverpool could go on and win the Champions league this year, and then they are seen as the best team in Europe for doing it.

Man U dont always win everything and i think were seeing more and more in the past few seasons that the quality in the other Premiership teams is reaching the standard to compete with the best and even beat the so called best. I mean look at teams like Everton, Aston villa and Man city, all have shown they can beat anyone on their day.