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Bushmouseone
10-02-2008, 08:51 AM
Not Neccicarily ... ^


Fifa is better than Mass Effect - Thats just plain shite

Renegade
10-02-2008, 10:26 AM
Mass Effect is one of the best games available on the 360. How you can say FIFA is better than it is... bizarre. It may have more longevity, but that's only because it has a multiplayer.

Roadpog
10-02-2008, 12:00 PM
Mass Effect is one of the best games available on the 360. How you can say FIFA is better than it is... bizarre. It may have more longevity, but that's only because it has a multiplayer.

I can't stand mass effect but i cant stand RPG. Except ones that keep me interested like Final fantasy the only RPG that has ever kept me interested. All the others just seem to bore me after half an hour.

Bushmouseone
10-02-2008, 06:09 PM
Mass effect is just plain bad

Renegade
10-02-2008, 06:30 PM
Mass effect is just plain bad

Care to offer any reasoning?

Bushmouseone
10-02-2008, 09:44 PM
1) Badly placed autosaves. Right before the **** storm hits you have a long conversation. You’d think that the best place to put an autosave would be right after the convo and right before combat. But then apparently you wouldn’t work for Bioware, who thought that the best place for an autosave would be before the conversation. Because everyone wants to have the same conversation a thousand times.

2) Totally unstable sniper rifles. Bioware apparently thinks that all snipers are drunks, because the target reticule swerves wildly about, making the thing extraordinarily difficult to use. Which in turn, by the way, makes the infiltrator class a joke. You’d have been better off creating a “crying little girl” class. Should I go back and choose another class because I chose a bad one? Apparently it takes twelve hours of play time before you learn that. Gosh, I hope I pick the right class next time before I burn another twelve hours of my life repeating **** I’ve already done.

3) unskippable cut scenes. Enough with this ****, people. Every game that does this is roundly ridiculed. Learn your ****ing lesson already.

4) Allies whom you can arm, but who will change their weapon at their own, totally nonsensical scheme. Going into close combat? I gave you a pimped shotgun to use, but apparently the piece of **** pistol you’ve had since the start of the game is the gun you want to use. Glad I gave you that thing and told you to use it so you could ignore me and pick your shittiest piece of **** in the arsenal. Next time I’ll give you a lump of my **** to use in combat, at least you’ll manage to offend the enemy.

5 ) Repositioning after cut-scenes. Listen, when I’m in a room full of angry people with guns, I go find cover. Apparently though, cut-scenes are the time when Shepard walks out into the middle of the room and turns his back to the enemy. Why are you assholes disorienting me like that? I spent all my ****ing time fighting my way into cover and the first thing you do is rip me out of it and turn me around.

All of this makes me glad i didnt buy the game, but played / watched @ freinds

carocat
10-02-2008, 09:49 PM
1. Manual save.

2. Of course not all classes can do all. Kind of basis of an RPG.

3. You can exit convos as for cutscenes I can't think of many. Definitely less than 10.

4. Never had that problem.

5. Actually it goes up to X, maybe more. And pressing X upgrades it with different ammo, feats which drastically changes the way agun works. And again it depends on your specialisation.

Anything else?

Bushmouseone
10-02-2008, 09:58 PM
Lesbian Animie Porn - WTF


And what's wrong with FIFA?

The Through-Ball Passes are annoying, but then you have to time it right with enough power. Like in real life

Mass Effect < FIFA 08

Renegade
10-02-2008, 10:01 PM
1. That's what the nice big 'Save' icon is for. You click it when you would like to save. A lot of long games (the entire Zelda series, Final Fantasy) don't have an auto save at all.

2. The Sniper becomes stable as a rock when you level it up, and when you buy the Spectre class Snipers. Any RPG starts off your weapon skill low, for you to build up. That's the point.

3. The cutscenes are short, although I agree that having them unskippable is annoying. Not enough to stop playing though.

4. You arm your allies with guns in their inventory, but they use the one that you equipped them with - press LB to bring up a squad list and they will not deviate from the weapon you give them for each fight.

5. Cut scenes don't occur until you have either defeated all the enemies within a room, or as soon as you enter the room. There are no mid-fight cut scenes as far as I recall.

Your points are spurious at best, and made up at worst. Mass Effect is by far my game of 2007, and my favourite Xbox 360 game by a long way. It's involving, emotive, challenging and interesting - the character-driven plot is fantastic. Graphically it is great but not amazing, however in terms of sound - voice acting and music - it's superb. I havn't got a particularly bad word to say about it. Some things it could have done better, but it does everything extremely well.

carocat
10-02-2008, 10:05 PM
The lesbian porn was only if you had a female character and spent time talking to Liari, the blue woman. One out of 4 possible combinations.

Anything else?

Bushmouseone
10-02-2008, 10:12 PM
Again to point out that FIFA has less flaws

So FIFA is a better game

Renegade
10-02-2008, 10:13 PM
FIFA is a completely different game - how you're comparing it to Mass Effect I will never know. Rediculous.

carocat
10-02-2008, 10:14 PM
Did you actually read mine or Renegades posts which explained that several of your points were non issues or are you one of those people that choose to read what they want and ignore everything else?

Bushmouseone
10-02-2008, 10:17 PM
Im one of those people

Sorry :o

Corthag
14-02-2008, 11:35 PM
I find FIFA boring, repetitive and frustrating. The players always run where i dont want them and they defend like retards. Football games can never be relaistic as football is predictable but completely unpredictable at the same time, something FIFA can't do.

Renegade
14-02-2008, 11:45 PM
I think what I tried to do when getting into football games was to stop expecting absolute realism, and just enjoy what was there - especially the multiplayer. Although truthfully, there is a hell of a lot of things that happen in real life football matches that any of us would complain about if they were in a game!

carocat
14-02-2008, 11:48 PM
On the topic of football games, have any of you ever played the Club Football series on the Xbox and Ps2 I think? If so, what did you think about it?

Renegade
15-02-2008, 12:05 AM
It didn't do anything overly wrong, but didn't do any aspect anywhere near as well as the two major games.

Only worth buying if you're a massive fan of that club.

Roadpog
15-02-2008, 12:58 AM
I had man u one as it was the only one i could find
And i dint find it overly appealing im really enjoying fifa 08 at moment tho
Really like the Be a Pro side of things
Especially 5v5 :P

IcemanLeigh
15-02-2008, 08:56 AM
http://www.eatmybomb.com/archives/1277

Interesting to see that Bushmouse thinks exactly the same things as this guy. In fact, word for word. Crazy coincidence.

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 08:57 AM
I copied it, having not played it by meslef, rather at a freinds and not geting round to any major missions before we got bored and switched over to Call Of Duty 4

Is this a crime? no

IcemanLeigh
15-02-2008, 09:09 AM
Copying someone elses work and passing it off as your own with no mention for the original writer.. Is this a crime? Yes actually.

In all honesty I wont get started in the main body of this thread because it is an absolutely ridiculous conception. You yourself even know that whilst your opinion of mass effect may be one thing, that opinion can not be compared to your feelings of Fifa. They are completely different games. It is like suggesting that a stool is better than a telephone because your telephone once broke.

If I am honest, I am actually in agreement with you in your assumptions of Mass effect (I am going to say assumptions since you slearly havn't played it enough to gain an actual opinion of your own) but I will be the first to admit that, that is because I am not a fan of RPG's at all. Me not being a fan, I dont feel that I have any grounds in which to comment on this specific game since I have no backround knowledge or appreciation for other such games.

All of that being said, and with every opinion of mine still being valid: RPG's > Bushmouse.

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 09:16 AM
. They are completely different games. It is like suggesting that a stool is better than a telephone because your telephone once broke.


. All of that being said, and with every opinion of mine still being valid: RPG's > Bushmouse.

Let me be the first to congratulate you for shooting yourself in the foot, You have said you cant compare a stool and a telephone, then go on to compare me to an Xbox 360 game.


I would like to point out that: "stool is better than a telephone because your telephone once broke" is related to me, and that many of you dont like me becuase i am illiterate and obnoxious. Therefore many of you have decided to post crap about me in other threads. Fair play, but to compare me with an Xbox 360 is rubbish. Mass Effect is worth £30.00 and i am worth much more.

Renegade
15-02-2008, 10:26 AM
Must... resist... sarcastic... comment...

The guy you ripped off was just venting because he was too stupid to beat a relatively simple boss character, the Matriarch. He has no grounds for his argument, as me and Cat showed.

God, I thought the argument was retarded in the first place, but now to find out they aren't even your own opinions? Get this crap out of my sight. How you expect to be taken seriously is beyond me.

carocat
15-02-2008, 10:35 AM
This is something I honestly did not see coming..

Corthag
15-02-2008, 10:39 AM
Fair play, but to compare me with an Xbox 360 is rubbish. Mass Effect is worth £30.00 and i am worth much more.


he didn't compare you to a 360 you have no where near the worth of a 360. Leigh comapred you to a 360 game.

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 10:53 AM
Get this crap out of my sight.

I assume that i am the "crap" you are reffering to. Its an internet forum, How can you see me

you have no where near the worth of a 360.

And to you

Corthag
15-02-2008, 11:17 AM
ever thought about taking an iq test and getting proof you are retarded?

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 11:21 AM
ever thought about taking an iq test and getting proof you are retarded?

So ... What G.C.S.E grades would make me retarded ?

DinnyHoon
15-02-2008, 11:30 AM
having not played it by meslef,

......What the hell. Now, either I had some kind of minor blackout where I clicked on a different thread completely, or you just started a discussion about how a game you haven't played is ****.

And any monkey can get GCSEs.

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 11:36 AM
......What the hell. Now, either I had some kind of minor blackout where I clicked on a different thread completely, or you just started a discussion about how a game you haven't played is ****. .

I didnt start this convorsation, Kon seperated it into a diffrent thread.
My origonal statement was that i thought Mass Effect was sh!t and i prefered FIFA


And any monkey can get GCSEs.

Can They?.. What were your scores

Renegade
15-02-2008, 11:49 AM
I assume that i am the "crap" you are reffering to. Its an internet forum, How can you see me


Believe it or not, reading your posts involves SEEING them.

I didn't say that you were the crap - but the constant torrent of inane rubbish that's coming from your keyboard certainly is.

DinnyHoon
15-02-2008, 12:05 PM
I didnt start this convorsation, Kon seperated it into a diffrent thread.
My origonal statement was that i thought Mass Effect was sh!t and i prefered FIFA

But you haven't played the game through. I think the first 2 chapters of HL2 are utter ****, but I've played the game all the way through and it's one of my favourite games ever.


Can They?.. What were your scores

I'll let you in on a wee secret. I'm a MENSA member with a 145 IQ, however I do **** all in school. I didn't work for 2 years, and handed absolutely no coursework in. I walked out of my GCSEs with 10 grades, 7 of which were the golden A*-C. So yes. Any idiot/lazy POS can get them.

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 12:15 PM
I think the first 2 chapters of HL2 are utter ****

I thought the first two chapters of H2 are good, much better than the first two of Mass Effect


I'll let you in on a wee secret. I'm a MENSA member with a 145 IQ,

Proof

however I do **** all in school. I didn't work for 2 years, and handed absolutely no coursework in. I walked out of my GCSEs with 10 grades, 7 of which were the golden A*-C. So yes. Any idiot/lazy POS can get them.

Maybe when you were at school, but it has changed. Coursework Must be handed in or the maximum grade you can get is a D

Roadpog
15-02-2008, 12:17 PM
So yes. Any idiot/lazy POS can get them.

Implying Your an idiot there? i know what you mean though.
Anyone can get a gcse there is no fail unless u dont show up consiquently you get a U

But you cant fail after all its just paper with letters on them

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 12:19 PM
But you cant fail after all its just paper with letters on them

papers that affect your Future

Roadpog
15-02-2008, 12:22 PM
Not necessarily
Go to college you can start from scratch than from level 2 but you still have that chance to go somewhere

Also look at my uncle went from nothing to a certified Welder You dont always need GCSE's to go somewhere you just need the drive to get there

DinnyHoon
15-02-2008, 12:22 PM
Implying Your an idiot there?

Yup :p

Roadpog
15-02-2008, 12:37 PM
Yup :p

haha back on Discussion i think Mass Effect will be good if your one of them people that loved games such as

Final Fantasy, Half Life and Assasins creed around in that genre
Fifa is more the footy side of things so you really cant compare.
But Fifa is just intense Mass effect you have to get into the game and Want to know the ending unlike fifa, Where u just know the ending your gonna win :p against CPU
I do really like the 5v5 of things tho

Renegade
15-02-2008, 01:58 PM
papers that affect your Future

GCSE's don't affect a God Damn thing. Anyone telling you they do is working for an institution that wants you to do well so that they can receive more Government funding. Or your parents.

The fact that you judged an entire game and refused to play it, based on the first two chapters (what chapters?) alone, shows exactly how much common sense your lovely GCSE certificates have given you.

If you had played the whole thing and didn't like it, or had some opinions of your own, then yeah you have every right to say that IN YOUR OPINION you don't like it. But to not bother playing it (no, the first bit doesn't count) and then rip off somebody else's opinions won't get you any credibility at all.

Crosso
15-02-2008, 06:51 PM
thanks to bushmouse spam he's pulled you lot out of the real topic of this thread.

honestley who and why would you compare two different game genres saying one "is a lump of crap" and the other you bless it to death.
both games are good, they have flaws.

Renegade
15-02-2008, 06:55 PM
Agreed. That's all that needs to be said. Neither is perfect, both are excellent.

Bushmouseone
15-02-2008, 08:21 PM
Can we drop it yet ...?

Liam
16-02-2008, 11:05 AM
FIFA is a completely different game - how you're comparing it to Mass Effect I will never know. Rediculous.

Exactly what I windmilled in here to say. I haven't played Mass Effect or (the new) FIFA, but even if I had there is no way to compare the two. While we are at it, why don't we compare Halo 3 and PGR4? :D


*Reads back over whole thread* :eek: