Console regret

[jamiecfc]

Out of all PS3 games is there any that make u want to buy one

[Pirate Balloon]

Metal Gear Solid 4 and the new Gran Tourismo. I haven't looked up any other games really

[jamiecfc]

I like the look of drakes uncharted put not enough to make go and buy a PS3

[DinnyHoon]

Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Ridge Racer 7, Motorstorm, Resistance, F1 Championship Edition, Heavenly Sword.

Then you've got MGS4, GT5, UT3: Special almost-like-the-PC-version edition, and let's not forget Haze - all coming out in the next 4 months.


Plus, it's the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market, and Blu-Ray won a month ago.

[Roadpog]

I was havinga chat about PS3 and how powerful it is and apparently The 360 is more powerful its just the fact it breaks down alot.
The only reason id buy a PS3 is for MGS4 and GT5 but apparently in america to buy everything for GT5 it gonna cost them $1200 for all real world tracks and all the cars u have to buy seperatley in america. dont know if thats the same for is if it is thats a big put off

[DinnyHoon]

GT5 it gonna cost them $1200 for all real world tracks and all the cars u have to buy seperatley

Complete fabrication. This was debunked as long as 6 months ago, with a release from Polyphony saying that the hundreds of cars will be available with the game, and one or two dozen cars, and a few tracks, will be DLC - just like every other game in this generation.

[NeoKubrick]

I was havinga chat about PS3 and how powerful it is and apparently The 360 is more powerful its just the fact it breaks down alot.

Sounds like quite a chat:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=1

[Corthag]

Thats a short post for you neo. That link just seems to say that they are different but we will have to wait for the future to see the differences. I wanted more of a definitive conclusion, guess that is hard when neither console had been released though.

[Renegade]

I think that's probably why it's so short on info - pre release info only.

[DinnyHoon]

The 360 and PS3 are currently selling at pretty much 1:1 worldwide, with the PS3 selling more in Europe, and the 360 remaining prominent in the States. The only thing we're yet to see in this console war is if (or even when) the 360 will start to fall behind in terms of disc storage, or raw power. However, Microsoft have a great advantage with XBL, so this will be a close fight to the end.

[Corthag]

according to that article the old xbox titles didnt even use half the storage on the discs so there should be little worry bout that.

[quickshot89]

raw power

its not the speed of the console, but how it manages its code

[NeoKubrick]

Thats a short post for you neo. That link just seems to say that they are different but we will have to wait for the future to see the differences. I wanted more of a definitive conclusion, guess that is hard when neither console had been released though.
That link demonstrates how complex it is to compare the graphical prowess of one system to another.

[quickshot89]

btw, you all know the RSX in the ps3 is based off the hardware for a 7800 right?

[kurosaki7]

What exactly are you getting at here, why does the fact its based off 7800 change what the system does?

[quickshot89]

no, not at all

[Corthag]

That link demonstrates how complex it is to compare the graphical prowess of one system to another.

Yeah it does i suppose for someone who actually knows about graphic engines, cpu, gpu and whatever other jargon words that article is quite interesting.

For me, who knows very very little about that kind of stuff it didn't make that much sense, it did recommend to read other articles beforehand. I would of liked it to be a bit more decisive, like this console is better but thats hard to do when the consoles have yet to be released and as you mention how complex it is to compare systems.

P.S. wow another short post neo i'm stunned :p

[Renegade]

To be honest Duffy, even with a background knowledge of hardware the artiicle doesn't do much. The configurations and usage of each console mean that it is hard to establish for sure what they should and should not be able to do.

It's mainly designed for those who are desperate to justify a purchase by saying their machine can do things that others can't, instead of just accepting that each machine is of excellent quality with some very high class games - it's just personal preference as to which games appeal more.

[Corthag]

PS3 sucks! 360 rules!!!!

You mean something like that?

[Terbinator]

i admit im craving for mgs4 but im not bout to go and buy a ps3 for it. the machines are equally balanced power wise, but im just worried that witht he momentum blu-ray is gaining people will see the 360 as a weak platform. i dont think disc storage will be a problem(exclude lost odyssey) becuase there will always be new and improved compression techniques. i think microsoft shud just shutdown the arcade sku and stick wiht elite and pro, it causes too much confusion for the consumer.

[DinnyHoon]

i admit im craving for mgs4 but im not bout to go and buy a ps3 for it.

Fair enough.

the machines are equally balanced power wise

I wouldn't say equal..

but im just worried that witht he momentum blu-ray is gaining people will see the 360 as a weak platform.

I don't think people will see the 360 as a weaker platform than it is, but it will improve the world's view of the PS3, perhaps to a state of equality with the 360 (minus XBL, of course).

i dont think disc storage will be a problem(exclude lost odyssey) becuase there will always be new and improved compression techniques.

Even with the best of compression techniques, there is very little you can do with 8.5GB these days. San Andreas was pushing the limits of the DL DVD way back in 2004, which is why I can see the 360 devs facing problems in the next 36 months.

i think microsoft shud just shutdown the arcade sku and stick wiht elite and pro, it causes too much confusion for the consumer.

DEFINITELY. Now that Burnout Paradise is a game requiring the HDD for online play, MS should really start looking at every SKU being equipped with at least 20GB (13GB :( ).

[Bushmouseone]

DEFINITELY. Now that Burnout Paradise is a game requiring the HDD for online play, MS should really start looking at every SKU being equipped with at least 20GB (13GB :( ).

Is it Absolutly Essential for Burnout Paradise, or just for laughing at people as you take them down

If i Need it to play online, then that is off the to-get list

[BlueHoopedMoose]

which is why I can see the 360 devs facing problems in the next 36 months.

By which time the 360 will be 5 years old and we'll be talking about a new Xbox...

[DinnyHoon]

I meant the next 36 months as the rest of the 360's lifespan ;)

[quickshot89]

i dont think we will run out of disc space anyway this gen, and if we do, its not hard to split the game up so you have to dl 5 mins worth of content while you do the training missions that hard?

[DinnyHoon]

MS can't do that, not all of their customers have broadband, or even a HDD.

[quickshot89]

MS can't do that, not all of their customers have broadband, or even a HDD.

if they can afford games they can afford broadband

[Renegade]

I used to buy N64 games, didn't mean I had the internet or a comouter. A lot of people have houses but no car. Same thing really.

MS can't force gamers to buy a HDD just to play games. However, they can offer stripped down versions (remember Perfect Dark if you had no expansion pak?) or multiple disks (Blue Dragon).

[Jimmy Bones]

if they can afford games they can afford broadbandGames = #30-#40
Broadband = #20-#40 a month.

So no, not really

[Renegade]

True - forgot the fact that broadband is on a contract whereas if you can't afford a game you don't have to buy one.

[carocat]

MS can't force gamers to buy a HDD just to play games. However, they can offer stripped down versions (remember Perfect Dark if you had no expansion pak?) or multiple disks (Blue Dragon).
That is in effect already though, no? I thought SCDA could only be played with an HDD..

[Renegade]

I didn't know that, I will be honest. What can't you do without a HDD?

[DinnyHoon]

Play Burnout Paradise online, go anywhere near the Marketplace for anything more than a theme...

[Renegade]

I meant on SCDA. With BP, the whole single player is still available - like I said, it's a stripped down version, not downright unplayable.

[DinnyHoon]

Yeah, I guess so. It's a step in the wrong direction to offer people with lesser SKUs lesser games.

[quickshot89]

Games = #30-#40
Broadband = #20-#40 a month.

So no, not really

your getting ripped for your BB then

i pay 22 quid for phone line, bband and unlimted calls per month

edit: sony offer a 40gig ps3 with no backwards compat, compared to the 360 which has full BC as long as you have a mem card which costs bugger all anyway, which you get with the arcade SKU tbh

[DinnyHoon]

your getting ripped for your BB then

i pay 22 quid for phone line, bband and unlimted calls per month

edit: sony offer a 40gig ps3 with no backwards compat, compared to the 360 which has full BC as long as you have a mem card which costs bugger all anyway

I'm pleased for you.

In my room, I have a £350 HDTV, PS3, 360, Wii, gaming PC, and a Mac. However, I can't even afford Sky, let alone SkyHD. What I;m saying is that just because you spend £30 once, doesn't mean you can spend it 12 times.

[quickshot89]

I'm pleased for you.

In my room, I have a £350 HDTV, PS3, 360, Wii, gaming PC, and a Mac. However, I can't even afford Sky, let alone SkyHD. What I;m saying is that just because you spend £30 once, doesn't mean you can spend it 12 times.

yet you have spent at least 3 grand on things that you play abit at the time? all i have is my pc and 360, then my samsung for the 360, total cost = £1200

and i cant afford sky either, but wtf is the point in paying for crap SD content when i can dl and watch the HD version any time i want on my pc


do you really need 3 consoles, a pc and a mac in your room? really? wouldnt that money be better spent on a single or duel platform ?

[DinnyHoon]

yet you have spent at least 3 grand on things that you play abit at the time? all i have is my pc and 360, then my samsung for the 360, total cost = £1200

and i cant afford sky either, but wtf is the point in paying for crap SD content when i can dl and watch the HD version any time i want on my pc


do you really need 3 consoles, a pc and a mac in your room? really? wouldnt that money be better spent on a single or duel platform ?

Calm down, I wasn't going to submit it to ratethecontentsofmyroom.com, I was just making a point.

[Bushmouseone]

ratethecontentsofmyroom.com,

If that is a real website i would laugh my socks off.
All i got in my room, is a crap 20" t.v and my laptop. I would have 360, but the buggers broke

[Jimmy Bones]

your getting ripped for your BB then

i pay 22 quid for phone line, bband and unlimted calls per monthA lot of people, myself included, have BB packages that come with all sorts, like mobile phone contracts and TV services which push up the price. Espacially when the ISP package is beeing used for other members of the family than me.

So not really, no.

[Roadpog]

BB is expensive that a game in the long run although u got 'Free broadband' your still paying line rental fee's and so on and so forth.
It all adds up to be more than a game
All you can do with broadband is up it and still pay the same price best thing you can do and only thing you can do unless your the owner? :p

Also a PS3 will find its true power when the Xbox 720 is out most likely the next xbox.
So no point getting one as most games released on PS3 or Xbox 360 are never gonna be Exclusives.

Like Haze which is coming out on 360 now.
Only certain games will stay loyal to to there companys and thats cause they own the rights :p
MGS4 GT5 = PS3
Halo, Forza and probs Gears of war* = 360

*Except PC version obv.

[Terbinator]

ur getting carried away quickshot calm down, 2 be fair tho u (dinny hoon) did defeat the object by saying u have all those things. but is anyone really bothered for example if there game did come with more than one disc? it wouldnt bother me personally but what i could see happening if space was running short is that if a games is multiplayer orientated that the SP and MP will come on seperate discs

[Renegade]

Multi-disc wouldn't bother me either. I don't mind moving three feet to my 360 every 9-10 hours to change the disk over.

[DinnyHoon]

ur getting carried away quickshot calm down, 2 be fair tho u (dinny hoon) did defeat the object by saying u have all those things. but is anyone really bothered for example if there game did come with more than one disc? it wouldnt bother me personally but what i could see happening if space was running short is that if a games is multiplayer orientated that the SP and MP will come on seperate discs

MGS annoyed me when I wanted to cross the snow field and it asked me to insert disc 2, or when I idly put disc 1 in when I knew I was 10 minutes away from the Metal Gear battle. It also frustrates me when I'm playing COD and someone asks me for a game of Halo. Then again, I'm impatient and lazy :p

[Pirate Balloon]

Console regrets? My Playstation has a WWF sticker-skin on it.

[BsE_Millo]

ooo.. damn! Thats like when I was 14 and ruined my beautiful guitar was a huge Blink 182 sticker.. No trade in value now... but its worth about £500

[DinnyHoon]

ooo.. damn! Thats like when I was 14 and ruined my beautiful guitar was a huge Blink 182 sticker.. No trade in value now... but its worth about £500

I bought my first guitar because it was the same colour as Tom Delonge's strat :(

[Terbinator]

whos tom delonge?

[BsE_Millo]

Blink 182 Guitarist/Singer.

What one? The blue one?

[DinnyHoon]

Yeah, I have a cheap baby blue strat knockoff :p