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Renegade
16-05-2007, 06:52 AM
26th September 2007 for all us Europeans - the damn day I start back to uni.

"Finish the Fight on September 25, 2007
Posted by lukems at 5/15/2007 9:01 PM PDT

We said Fall 2007, but did you expect Halo 3?s release date to be just two days into the Fall? On September 25, 2007 (just two days after the Autumnal Equinox), players will be able to finish the fight they started in Halo: Combat Evolved and continued in Halo 2. Halo 3 will release in Europe on September 26, 2007. Worldwide dates may vary slightly depending on local rules and conditions.

What does a release date mean to the team, aside from a concrete date when folks can go home to their wives and children? I chatted with Executive Producer Jonty Barnes, to see how announcing a release date affects Bungie.

Q: Jonty, describe what your day to day job at Bungie entails:

As Executive Producer on Halo 3, pretty much every day is different. Essentially at this point in the project all the hard-planned scheduling time is behind us and we?re no longer reevaluating or unblocking dependencies we?re moving into polish the game.

What this means is when I?m looking at the game now it?s a representative experience and working with the team to make targeted and iterative improvements.

Today?s world is more about design polish and using feedback from the Public Beta to make improvements. Plus fixing enough bugs and keeping the team sane.

Q: September 25 is the big day, does announcing the release date actually change anything internally for Bungie?

A: Nope not much for Bungie, that?s been the plan for months and months. The only thing it does however is make the end seem very, very real to people.

To be honest, the critics in the studio are those who drive and stress the team the most. External dates and announcements just bring home the excitement and expectation the public has for the game, and this makes the hard work feel worth it.

Q: Previously, making games at Bungie has been described as ?trying to assemble a cathedral in a hurricane,? does this metaphor apply to Halo 3?s process? Give us your own, appropriately British and erudite metaphor to describe Halo 3?s development cycle this time?

A: Hmm? it?s more like a swarm of ants devouring a food mountain at a picnic with rain clouds heading towards us.

This time around the team is bigger and more coordinated, the goals are known but the scope is greater than we?re used to, and irrespective of being far more organized it?s not without chaotic elements looming? not least September 25th.

Q: In terms of snack foods, how crunchy is a Bungie Crunch?

A: Like a meteor hitting a sea of Doritos.

The concluding third of the Halo trilogy takes place on September 25, but other major events dot history's horizon. Here's a few, courtesy of the Internet.

1513 Vasco Nunez de Balboa is 1st European to see Pacific Ocean

1639 1st printing press in America

1926 Henry Ford announces 8 hour, 5-day work week

1956 The first trans-Atlantic telephone cable is put into service from Oban, Scotland to Clarenville, Newfoundland.

1970 Ringo releases his "Beaucoups of Blues" album

1992 "Barry Manilow's Showstoppers" opens at Paramount New York City"




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NeoKubrick
16-05-2007, 07:23 AM
As long as its ready, I'll be happy with that date.

Renegade
16-05-2007, 08:12 AM
Same, but it's still the exact day I start back at uni. God dammit. Ah well, it's still earlier than I thought it would be.

Azure
16-05-2007, 08:18 AM
I will expect it to be in October to be honest or November, with sexy retail bundles and spartan 360s and everything for Christmas.

Renegade
16-05-2007, 08:27 AM
You know that's an official date, from Bungie themselves right? And that they've known the date for ages but not released the date to the streets until the beta was out, right?

Azure
16-05-2007, 08:31 AM
You know that means squat, right?

FiveOhOne
16-05-2007, 08:47 AM
Halo 2 was pushed back a good few times IIRC....

Renegade
16-05-2007, 08:49 AM
With Halo 2 the announced the date too early, and in an attempt to stem the masses waiting for it. Also, MS set the date, not Bungie.

Now, Bungie have set the date themselves, and have been working to that date all along. They have known for a long time when it needs to be done, and I'm confident it will.

FiveOhOne
16-05-2007, 08:57 AM
Confident, but not certain.. These things are always fluid, I wouldn't set my expectations on a specific date this early. Don't get me wrong, they may well be working towards it, but there's plenty of time between here and there for things to screw up..

Renegade
16-05-2007, 09:01 AM
True, true. But I'm convinced they won't release in October or November to be honest, that's what makes me so confident on the end of September. Coming up against GTAIV would be suicide marketing.

FiveOhOne
16-05-2007, 09:43 AM
Not necessarily. It's Halo 3, probably the biggest game release of all time to date. It will sell well, no question about it, even if only those who have played H2 buy it, thats still a monstrous user base. It wouldn't put it in the best position certainly, but it's not going to be dwarfed by any other release.

If Bungie have set the date, there's nothing to stop MS, the parent company, pushing it back to reinforce console sales over the holiday period. If there was any game ever that was going to shift consoles and live subscriptions, it'd be this one.

Again, as I said, the September release may be what they're aiming for, but there are a huge number of factors which could change that in the interim.

BlueHoopedMoose
16-05-2007, 12:17 PM
I can't believe they'd be stupid enough to announce a release date when the Beta hasn't even finished... why would you do that?!?!?

Tim
16-05-2007, 01:25 PM
That's alot earlier than I was expecting.

quickshot89
16-05-2007, 01:35 PM
could it be that the beta is all they need to test the network code, and then they have plenty of time to fix any problems, and then make it go gold?

remember, this is the beta of the multiplayer, that doesnt mean the story mode hasnt been finished???

Renegade
16-05-2007, 01:53 PM
I can't believe they'd be stupid enough to announce a release date when the Beta hasn't even finished... why would you do that?!?!?

What difference does it make? It's not going to make people not want to play the beta. It's the beta of the same game after all.

FiveOhOne
16-05-2007, 01:57 PM
Until the beta has run it's course, Bungie have no idea how much work is going to be required to make the beta code gold. How can you say 'It'll be released on x date' when you have no idea how much longer its going to take to incorporate any updates/changes/recodes...

Azure
16-05-2007, 02:04 PM
Bless him.

KONSPIRACY
16-05-2007, 02:15 PM
I heard this rumour the other day but still very surprised to see it materialising. Whether they stick to the date or not is another question and I'm with the doubters tbh...prove me wrong n you'll see H3 at XL sooner than expected! :D

KH Torrance
16-05-2007, 02:24 PM
Gawd, people . . . Okay, first, Halo 2 was never pushed back.

The public expected it earlier than it came, but it arrived on the first and only release date announced.

Halo 3 will come out September 25th.

Renegadeds, I don't think Moose was talking about hype for the game. The Beta is to collect network data and (to a much lesser extent) public opinion. So until the Beta is finished, Bungie don't know how much work they have left to do!

That's why releasing a date now seems a bit strange when they could've just kept schtum for another month to make damn sure they can meet the deadline.

The only explanation for their action is that the game is very near completion and (despite Azure belittling him... again... *yawn*), I think what Quickshot said is pretty close to the truth.

You just have to look at the problems and public backlash from announcing Halo 2 too soon, to know Bungie are gonna make damn sure it doesn't happen again...

BlueHoopedMoose
16-05-2007, 03:00 PM
That's why releasing a date now seems a bit strange when they could've just kept schtum for another month to make damn sure they can meet the deadline.

The only explanation for their action is that the game is very near completion and (despite Azure belittling him... again... *yawn*), I think what Quickshot said is pretty close to the truth.

Indeed. The problem here is that all the bad kids are most probably thinking "Hey, it's a beta - my opinion will count for something!" when the reality, given the announcement of the release date, is that nothing we say or do will make a difference - the beta is just to test the netcode and see if any super bounces / whatevers are found.

So, this gives the bad kids yet another stick to beat bungie with ala "Hey bungie, we told you about this during the beat why didn't you fix it? YOU SUCK!!!"

Renegade
16-05-2007, 05:05 PM
Bungie already released an online patch, for the Halo 3 beta! They cut down the amount of slayer games occuring in Team Skirmish, and something else I forget about. They're already implementing the changes...

*edit* If you havn't had the update yet, restart the beta.

Mazzy
16-05-2007, 05:12 PM
there probly testing this new easy to edit play list thing, seeing as it is a beta and all.

Renegade
16-05-2007, 05:16 PM
Yep, they are making sure updates can be rolled out quickly and easily. And by god it works!

BlueHoopedMoose
17-05-2007, 07:31 AM
Bungie already released an online patch, for the Halo 3 beta! They cut down the amount of slayer games occuring in Team Skirmish, and something else I forget about. They're already implementing the changes...

I'm not talkign about minor things like editting play lists. I'm talking about the big scary bugs which Bungie don't know about.

Put it this way - the netcode is completely untested with the amount of players that we know will be playing the final game. What if the code is written so badly that it's basically unworkable with more than 10K users online? That could take months to fix but oops, bungies don't have time because they've already made their deadline.




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