Halo 3 beta start and maps announced

[carocat]

Halo 3's multiplayer beta will go live on 16th May at 1pm GMT and run until 7th June at 7.59am GMT, Microsoft said this morning.

You're promised a look at "new levels, weapons, vehicles and game types, as well as a chance to provide valuable data that [developer] Bungie will use in continued development".

The maps available will be Snowbound, High Ground and Valhalla, while you'll get to pootle around in the Mongoose all-terrain vehicle, using the new Assault Rifle, the Brute Spiker, the Spartan Laser and Spike Grenades to take one another out.

That's assuming you're on the beta. Gamers who secured a position by buying a specially marked copy of Crackdown, through the "Rule of Three" promotion or via another competition (or by ceaselessly begging friends at Bungie), will have no problems.

Microsoft reckons there should still be some copies of Crackdown on sale with a beta sticker on them, so keep an eye out.
Eurogamer.net (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=75080)

[BlueHoopedMoose]

LOL - so after paying ?40+ for Crackdown you get 3 weeks of a beta? you've gotta admire M$'s balls...

hate to see the reaction when half the users can't get on because the matchmaking servers are overloaded!

[Shadowsun]

It's good that they are finally doing the test but nly 3 weeks? That means that no one will get on more than once because of the servers being overloaded as Blue said

[quickshot89]

its right before exams!!! no fair

[carocat]

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/04/10/halo-3-mp-vidoc-impressions/

Couldn't find the video elsewhere. Apparenntly it's also on Marketplace though.

Anyways, not too sure on the whole recording the game/seeing it from an enemy's perspective [end of the video]. That would ruin tactics a lot.

[KONSPIRACY]

3 measely weeks of "could not connect to server" is gonna be lame. I was actually considering buying Crackdown for this but I dont think I'll be bothering now tbh.

[Xg Corkin]

Im happy i traded Crackdown in now :)

[Spindryer]

Trip grenades, shield bombs and action reply all added to Multi-player ...... Halo3 is shaping up nicely.

[KONSPIRACY]

When you put it like that...how can I not get it?! lol :D

[Spindryer]

Yeah it looks like im going to have to buy crackdown just to play Halo3 beta (off ebay most prob) unless anyone can suggest a "cheaper" way?

[Simm0ns]

Trip grenades, shield bombs and action reply all added to Multi-player ...... Halo3 is shaping up nicely.

Shield bombs will turn out to be alot more annoying than they are fun. Now people that have been outplayed to the point of being killed are allowed to press X and not die. Lame.

[Dannyooo]

unless its a rare thing like theres only one on every map and it doesnt respawn then it will take skill to use it.

[Renegade]

Yeah it looks like im going to have to buy crackdown just to play Halo3 beta (off ebay most prob) unless anyone can suggest a "cheaper" way?

Lovefilm 2 week free trial will get you most of the beta. You could always just pay for a month and then it's only about a fiver to keep crackdown until the beta is finished.

[KH Torrance]

I think both its availability and effectiveness will be similar to the overshield.
So, nothing to get too worried about!
I just see it as a nifty way to actually stand a chance of winning a fight in the open without having fired first.

[Ikari]

Yeah it looks like im going to have to buy crackdown just to play Halo3 beta (off ebay most prob) unless anyone can suggest a "cheaper" way?

Steal it. lol.

I for one cannot bloody wait, it'll be nice to see how everything goes together, and it seems like the arsenal of weapons in this game is going to be huge! There's so many mentioned that could make a good primary weapon.

BTW, did anyone notice the awesome sound the grenades make in the video. They really are succeeding my expectations.

[Gaskin]

I think both its availability and effectiveness will be similar to the overshield.
So, nothing to get too worried about!
I just see it as a nifty way to actually stand a chance of winning a fight in the open without having fired first.

If you're any good with a battle rifle then it won't always be who fires first. Learn to double shot.. :)

[Cormac]

There is no mention of whether you can fire from inside the shield grenade yet.
It could be very useful in Assault for arming the bomb.

I've come back round to Halo and am quite highly anticipating both the full game and this beta now. This may have something to do with the fact that there really aren't many good games available at present. It may also have something to do with the fact that there hasn't been a game since Halo 2 which has pulled so many people back together night after night for more of the same.

It does look like more of the same too from everything I've seen and read. Single player is just Halo 2 but with Brutes now having a hierarchy like Elites and multiplayer just has a few new features, weapons and an overall polish.

Connectivity issues aside this beta should be a chance to dust off the cobwebs and rekindle some old rivallries. I have my copy of Crackdown and I'm looking forward to it. Only a matter of weeks.

[KH Torrance]

Errr... who says the double shot will return for Halo 3?! :confused: It's a glitch.

[FiveOhOne]

There is no mention of whether you can fire from inside the shield grenade yet.
It could be very useful in Assault for arming the bomb.

I've come back round to Halo and am quite highly anticipating both the full game and this beta now. This may have something to do with the fact that there really aren't many good games available at present. It may also have something to do with the fact that there hasn't been a game since Halo 2 which has pulled so many people back together night after night for more of the same.

It does look like more of the same too from everything I've seen and read. Single player is just Halo 2 but with Brutes now having a hierarchy like Elites and multiplayer just has a few new features, weapons and an overall polish.

Connectivity issues aside this beta should be a chance to dust off the cobwebs and rekindle some old rivallries. I have my copy of Crackdown and I'm looking forward to it. Only a matter of weeks.


You reckon they've kept this Spectre in this time round? ;)

[Dannyooo]

Errr... who says the double shot will return for Halo 3?! :confused: It's a glitch.

yea apprently there is no weapon glitches so ive heard........

[KONSPIRACY]

yea apprently there is no weapon glitches so ive heard........
I'll believe it when I see it tbh. The weapon glitches and the ability to consistently perform them are pretty much the only thing that seperates the top players at the minute on Halo2 (could be quite a controversial topic) so wouldnt be surprised to see some kind of "legal" glitches in the game to surface within a few weeks of release.

[Azure]

Or they could just go back to halo ce style where it took skill to shoot someone down...

That video is the most lame thing ever.

Yeah it was incredible what we discovered was that when we spawned people with a dual wield weapon we were astonished to find that people were no longer using grenades or cover or single arm weapons...

Trip mines can go suck a nut as well.

Look at me I am about to get splattered, lets push a button to win... Aim? Nope, think? No? Smart? No.

Push fire drop mine, bang.

I have a really bad view of the bad kids on games where they settle for suicide + kills rather than strive for a skillful kill over someone else.

[KONSPIRACY]

Or they could just go back to halo ce style where it took skill to shoot someone down...

The Halo franchise is way to big now for them to go back to the roots of the game now, so I fully expect H3 to be even more accessible to new gamers more than ever before. The best I can hope for is that they still allow the game options to be fully customisable so we can have some degree of skill level on the game and make it as competitive as possible.

edit: I think the video is quite reassuring as it shows they are clearly trying to make H3 the best gaming experience ever, and I'm feeling pretty confident about the game having seen it.

[quickshot89]

@ azure, the trip mines will be like overshields, rare to find, and you only get 1 at a time, or maybe a few per team, maybe to place around your base as a defence( that would be been so useful in halo2 2 flag ctf etc) and its up to you to go get them and use them wisely

anyway, come on may 16th :D

[FiveOhOne]

@ azure, the trip mines will be like overshields, rare to find, and you only get 1 at a time, or maybe a few per team, maybe to place around your base as a defence( that would be been so useful in halo2 2 flag ctf etc) and its up to you to go get them and use them wisely

How'd you find that out?

[Pie In The Sky]

Yeah thats what I was gonna say. You seem pretty sure quickshot?

[quickshot89]

well it would make sense if it were like that dont you think ?

[KONSPIRACY]

Unfortunately just cos you think something makes sense doesnt make it fact! :D

[Mazzy]

did anyone see how big the shield nade thing was? it looked kool on the advert, now its this huge ball that he justs drops and it rolls around on the floor, WTF ?

[quickshot89]

im guessing it will decrease in size, it was only an alpha build after all

[Pie In The Sky]

Or... maybe it will stay that big, and actually have to be carried as a weapon rather than a nade.

[KH Torrance]

It's neither a weapon nor a grenade. It falls into the third category: "Deployable Equipment" (controlled by the X-button). Fact. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6045220&postcount=114) :-)

Remember, Mazzy, the CG advert took liberties with items from the game. Not the other way round. The bubble shield looks like a huge ball in the game because that's how a bubble shield in the Halo universe looks.

It still looks pretty cool to me. Sure it could be slightly smaller, but remember it's valuable equipment that needs to easily stand out from random debris.
Maybe they'll decrease the size but make it glow a brighter orange in the final build?

[Dannyooo]

surely people will just camp outside it? and wait till it goes?

We will all find out soo enough :P tasty tasty beta!!

(sorry didnt mean to double post i cant find delete button :S )

[Azure]

@ azure, the trip mines will be like overshields, rare to find, and you only get 1 at a time, or maybe a few per team, maybe to place around your base as a defence( that would be been so useful in halo2 2 flag ctf etc) and its up to you to go get them and use them wisely

For all you ****ing know it could be a spawn weapon.. Just say it aloud now.. "For all I know, little fluffy pink elephants could be deployed out of my ears and go and kill my enemies in Halo 3..." For all you know...

In future just save everyone the time and effort and say

I haven't a ****ing clue what I am talking about, I am hypothesising so that I can make this extremely gay sounding weapon sound like it is as good as shooting the left testicle off a gnat at 500 yards whilst arming a flag. I fail.

Trip mine... The new "easier to use than a rocket launcher" anti-vehicle weapon...

[quickshot89]

For all you ****ing know it could be a spawn weapon.. Just say it aloud now.. "For all I know, little fluffy pink elephants could be deployed out of my ears and go and kill my enemies in Halo 3..." For all you know...

Trip mine... The new "easier to use than a rocket launcher" anti-vehicle weapon...

erm, no, cos Torrance says its deployable equipment, and i doubt you get things like that @ spawn, if you do, i will call you a god, if not, ha

[KH Torrance]

Exactly.
I'm sure there will be options to start with equipment (just like we can choose to spawn with overshields and active camouflage in Halo 2); but if they're as crap as you (so eloquently) identified, Azure, then chances are Bungie won't make them default spawn items in matchmaking.

And of course it'll be possible for Bungie to change the playlists after release. So if we all spawn with mines and bubble shields and it sucks that bad, Bungie will probably change it.

[Renegade]

For all you ****ing know it could be a spawn weapon.. Just say it aloud now.. "For all I know, little fluffy pink elephants could be deployed out of my ears and go and kill my enemies in Halo 3..." For all you know...

In future just save everyone the time and effort and say



Trip mine... The new "easier to use than a rocket launcher" anti-vehicle weapon...

I'm ****ing happy to have the trip mine. The Warthog is so brutally overpowered in CTF as it is right now, it will be nice to be able to have a bit more security. I personally can't see many people using it the same way as in the video to suicide kill the hog, but at least if they do they kill themselves, instead of rocket whoring which kills everyone in the hog while they run away.

Stop being an ass, you have as little idea of how it will work in real life as he does. You havn't played it and nor has he. In theory, the BR sounded like crap compared to the AR. Now look at it.

[Retro]

Im just glad the BR is still there, i though they were replacing it with that gay AR which looks like the mother of all spray and prey guns.

A decent single or multiple-shot gun will keep this game from a nonskilful death. With out the BR from halo2 and the Pistol from halo there is naff all that makes this game enjoyable. All these lasers, tazzers and bubble wrap will just end up like the same crap we got in h2 with the un-needed weapons that no one ever used ,which despite there ultra coolness that bungie hyped them up to be were as useful as running around with a baked bean can in one hand and the other down your pants...


HALO 3 is going to be noobified beyond believe...then all the cool kids will just come in sort out a new weapon select, get rid of the default crap, MLG will pick it up, community will split between the boring weapon select and the new skilful select and everyone lives happily ever after...

[Renegade]

Ah retro, can I borrow your crystal ball when you're done with it?

Everyone here - knows **** all - about how Halo 3 - will be.

[Spindryer]

From reading that little lot Retro i take it your not going to be buying Halo 3 or playing it.... Yeah right :rolleyes:

Im just glad the BR is still there, i though they were replacing it with that gay AR which looks like the mother of all spray and prey guns.


They have already said there going back to the AR. So where are you getting BR from i don't know.

With out the BR from halo2 and the Pistol from halo there is naff all that makes this game enjoyable.

Again where are you getting all this information from that know else knows about. As far as i was aware the pistol was in Halo2 but not many people used that like they did to the same effect on Halo CE...

All these lasers, tazzers and bubble wrap will just end up like the same crap we got in h2 with the un-needed weapons that no one ever used

Name one..... I used and enjoyed every single weapon that Halo 2 had to offer, i admit that my choice of weapon depended on who i was playing and if was host or not but there was nothing better than going round with a Brute shot + a Combo.... In fact the weapon i used the least seemed to be the SMG which was most probably overall the most used weapon as it was default on most MM game types.

HALO 3 is going to be noobified beyond believe...then all the cool kids will just come in sort out a new weapon select, get rid of the default crap, MLG will pick it up, community will split between the boring weapon select and the new skilful select and everyone lives happily ever after...


I thought Halo 2 was "noobified" beyond belief, In fact how can anything that has an auto aim system in place be anything less. I don't expect Halo 3 to be any different and it wont be competitive until as u said ppl like MLG come along and find the few maps and weapons that can be used to make it competitive and enjoyable for the above average gamer.

If you want a compeitive gaming expirence then play PC games.

[Pie In The Sky]

Actually, spin, I'm pretty sure they are having the AR but keeping the BR in aswell. Can't remember where I herd it but I do remember them having both rifles in halo3.

But renegades, who the hell do you think you are? Calling azure an ass for burning quickshot when he was making assumptions about the game, and then you go and burn someone for exactly the same reason? Make your mind up what you're arguing about...

[Retro]

From reading that little lot Retro i take it your not going to be buying Halo 3 or playing it.... Yeah right :rolleyes:


Since when have i mentioned that? I will be getting halo3, and i will be playing it, for how long and much remain to be seen...just because i have spoken against the omighty powers of halo doesn't mean i wont enjoy the game...



They have already said there going back to the AR. So where are you getting BR from i don't know.


I do believe they are, the video has a clip of a guy using a BR so im assuming that the game does...


Again where are you getting all this information from that know else knows about. As far as i was aware the pistol was in Halo2 but not many people used that like they did to the same effect on Halo CE...[\quote]

Are you retarded? I said and il quote myself,

[quote]With out the BR from halo2 and the Pistol from halo there is naff all that makes this game enjoyable

Seeing as you obviously can not read, I said Without the battle rifle from HALO2, and the pistol from HALO [different game<---the first one] there is nothing that makes this game enjoyable.

If i was giving an example of the pistol from HALO2 I would have wrote the above quote like this...

"With out the BR and Pistol from halo2 blah, blah....

Not sure what your argument is here......






Name one..... I used and enjoyed every single weapon that Halo 2 had to offer, i admit that my choice of weapon depended on who i was playing and if was host or not but there was nothing better than going round with a Brute shot + a Combo.... In fact the weapon i used the least seemed to be the SMG which was most probably overall the most used weapon as it was default on most MM game types.

I didn't really think i needed to state what weapons.

But weapons that for are just plain annoying, over powered or useless against a BR and sniper for me were...

Sword, brute shot, shotgun, rocket launcher, SMG, pistol, needler etc... just take a look at matchboxes rule list yea......well every weapon that is not on there....


So spin on halo, what did you play with more and found more enjoyable in custom games?

MLG weapon sets, or matchmaking weapon sets?




I thought Halo 2 was "noobified" beyond belief, In fact how can anything that has an auto aim system in place be anything less. I don't expect Halo 3 to be any different and it wont be competitive until as u said ppl like MLG come along and find the few maps and weapons that can be used to make it competitive and enjoyable for the above average gamer.

Didnt say halo2 wasn't...

Again was there really need for such a long post...


If you want a compeitive gaming expirence then play PC games.


If you want a competitive football experience then go play in the Premiership...

[Spindryer]

Since when have i mentioned that? I will be getting halo3, and i will be playing it, for how long and much remain to be seen.

Hmmmm why would anyone buy a game that they criticize so much is beyond me :rolleyes:


I do believe they are, the video has a clip of a guy using a BR so im assuming that the game does...

Well that's not really true now is it, for example if you didn't spot the images of the AR firing with its unique look then you might of just got a hint when the guy talking on the video said "We thought Halo 3 was the perfect time to bring back the AR".... Hmmm strange how you could skim over all of that....


Are you retarded? I said and Ill quote myself,
With out the BR from halo2 and the Pistol from halo there is naff all that makes this game enjoyable

That's strange because im sure i have already quoted you in saying...

I'm just glad the BR is still there, i though they were replacing it with that gay AR which looks like the mother of all spray and prey guns.

So how does that work then? How can you in one sentence say that the BR is keeping in Halo 3 and then a line or 2 later your are dis-missing it.... Its my bad for not reading what you put right but its easy to start skim reading after seeing that you had already stated that YOU thought the BR would be in Halo 3.



I didn't really think i needed to state what weapons.

But weapons that for are just plain annoying, over powered or useless against a BR and sniper for me were...

Sword, brute shot, shotgun, rocket launcher, SMG, pistol, needler etc... just take a look at matchboxes rule list yea......well every weapon that is not on there....


LOL, so for start you said there is "naff" all to use in Halo 2 other than the BR and then to back that up you then admit the snipers are useful. For a start "some" of those weapons are not in any current MB Competition game types purely because we are running "slayer" type competition. When we do a skirmish type one then i would image ALL of them weapons would come into to play. I wont even begin with why them weapons are useful in there own way as it would be a waste of mine and everyone else with half a brains time....


So spin on halo, what did you play with more and found more enjoyable in custom games?

MLG weapon sets, or matchmaking weapon sets?

Now you have picked the wrong person to ask this question to, ask anyone on my friends what i play and they will all tell you everything and i love it all. Look at my ranks, i play all of the MM game types evenly tbh. Maybe slayer more but remember thats default weapon set ;) So sorry Retro that part of your argument like the rest of it fell flat on its face....

[Gaskin]

They're having the AR AND the BR...

[Spindryer]

Are they? You got a link as i didnt know the BR was staying.

[Gaskin]

You can see it in the video. And I've read it in several places, yet I don't have a source. Sorry.

[Spindryer]

I'll take yor word for it :) ,and if anyone has got a link i would like to see it as im not sure how they would intend of having a AR and a BR in the weapon set.

[Gaskin]

I think the AR is replacing the SMG. I'm not 100% certain on that though.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1542/brmj2.jpg

Enough proof?

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=161654 more screen shots, some clearly showing B.R's

[Azure]

As far as I was aware...

The AR was replacing the SMG, they were removing headshot bonus and giving it the range, though not the accuracy of a BR.

BR is staying for those who actually feel like aiming is a key point in FPS and to counter that sensible thinking we get man cannons and trip mines...

They must think it is Quake 3, not Halo 3.

[Renegade]

Actually, spin, I'm pretty sure they are having the AR but keeping the BR in aswell. Can't remember where I herd it but I do remember them having both rifles in halo3.

But renegades, who the hell do you think you are? Calling azure an ass for burning quickshot when he was making assumptions about the game, and then you go and burn someone for exactly the same reason? Make your mind up what you're arguing about...

I'm burning Azure because of the way he's doing it - Quickshot mentioned the idea that not everyone will start with tripmines and bubble shields as a counter to Azure talking like he has used the damn things and knows exactly how it's going to work out. It's exactly the same as all the little tossers that insist on pointing out every graphical flaw the game has, despite the fact that it's NOT finished, and they havn't played it.

Azure knows full well that custom gametypes will be in Halo 3, just like were in Halo 2, and I'm 100% positive has been confirmed by the devs - so where's the problem? He's pissed with the rocket launcher, but he can turn it off. He's pissed with the tripmines and buble shields, but will be able to turn them off. It's just very presumptuous and extremely ittitating - he knows we are all getting hyped about the beta, and for some reason he appears to simply be trying to kick us all down about it despite never playing it.

[Azure]

Heh, no need to get your pants in a bunch.

You hardly need kicking if you forked out for 21 days of "cannot connect to server". You kicked yourself.

Though to be fair I never played CTF with vehicles on, it was for noobs anyways, however the distinction I am making is that it will be a skill-less weapon to use and be gay.

QS goes into 15 pages on exactly how and where it will be used and where it will eb on the map, I don't need any information to call a trip mine as being gay further than what we have seen. Whereas the converse just isn't true, hence I can rag on him and seeing as I am watching Halo 3 just as much or if not more than anyone else on here I can call anything out I want to thanks. I took the last 2 Halos seriously as you ought to know being at XL...

As it stands I find a withering certainty that Retro's sentiments are correct.

[Spindryer]

I think the AR is replacing the SMG. I'm not 100% certain on that though.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1542/brmj2.jpg

Enough proof?

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=161654 more screen shots, some clearly showing B.R's


I had a look thanks for the link, although there was no mention in write up about the BR as u pointed out 1 of the 43 pictures of Halo 3 gameplay showed what appears to be a BR. I have to admit it does look like a BR but i since this is the first Ive seen of it with anything related to Halo 3 i can only imagine their will be an option on custom games to use old weapon sets?


All the hype about surrounding Halo 3 i love and of course some people don't and that's fair enough. I know halo 3 will be just as if not more "noobified" than Halo 2 but so what its enjoyable and i look forward to it. If that's not your cup of Tea then don't buy it and save your self 40 quid.

[Gaskin]

You can see it in a few others too.

[Spindryer]

Can you ? I did look through them all and it seemed from what i saw that they all featured the AR either on the MC's back or being fired. That's the only reason I'm thinking the BR would be more of a custom featured weapon as Bungie seem to be pushing the AR in our faces.

[Gaskin]

You can see there's two people meleing at each other both holding the BR. One from first person view and you can only just tell it's a BR and the other guy clearly holding one. Also in the video you hear a man say something about "being attacked from behind by a guy with a BR" or something along those lines.

[Retro]

I'm am right. 8 months down the line people will be running around shouting "OMG people who use the bubbles are n00bz", "matchmaking sucks" and "anyone want to play some customs? I'm sick of all the noobs on MM"


You will all thank me, and say wow what a guy. He warned us but, we were to arrogant to realise we were walking in to the same Shizam as the last game...

[KH Torrance]

I'm am right. You will all thank me, and say wow what a guy.
Yes, we're arrogant. :rolleyes:

What are you warning us?
That we'll eventually stop enjoying matchmaking?
Wow, very prophetic of you!

What's a Shizam (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Shizam)?

[Cormac]

Surely if they've limited numbers for access to the beta then they have some idea of what to expect when they finally launch it? Why do you all seem to think nobody will be able to connect? Limited numbers of Crackdown copies with beta stickers, limited numbers of places through competitions, etc. Surely they know how many players they are expecting to turn up for the beta?

Anyone who buys Crackdown just to play the beta is a complete ass.

[Bonzo]

Of course there'll be problems with the Beta at launch, it'll proberly take some people the length of the beta to download the dam thing.

[BlueHoopedMoose]

I'm am right. 8 months down the line people will be running around shouting "OMG people who use the bubbles are n00bz", "matchmaking sucks" and "anyone want to play some customs? I'm sick of all the noobs on MM"


You will all thank me, and say wow what a guy. He warned us but, we were to arrogant to realise we were walking in to the same Shizam as the last game...

People will always be saying that - the Halo series suffers from more "popularity haters" than pretty much any game about. It's c001z0R to hate on Halo.

So no, we won't be thanking you - we'll be saying "Well done Retro, you stated the bleedin' obvious"

@Cormac: Link here (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158048) shows Crackdown sold 427K units in February, I'm presuming just for the States. Globally would 1 million units to-date be a fair guess? If just half of them decide to have a go at the Halo 3 Beta that is a HUGE amount of people, especially for it's first large scale run-out. Yes, Bungie could have a really top notch beta environment running, or they may just use the Halo 2 system - but I wouldn't put it past them to have a few... errr... teething troubles :)

[Spindryer]

Anyone who buys Crackdown just to play the beta is a complete ass.

What people actaully bought it for...........Crackdown :eek:

[quickshot89]

just go read the bungie weekly update

trip mines and bubble shields are rare, as in 1 or so per map, and they can be destroyed

[Mazzy]

What people actaully bought it for...........Crackdown :eek:

its good if you ignore the story. its like people buying ZoE for the metal gear demo.

[gradinator]

People never did get this, GOW for example was designed so every so often the underdog would win. A jamming chainsaw here a les that 100% reliable shotgun with random shell distrubution.

In Halo it's become to technical, to competitive that anything that might let someone who doesn't deserve a kill obtain one is blasphamy.

The idea behind an exploding trip mine isn't skill it's humour. I know my favorate Halo moments have been behind a wheel, it's so random and uncalculated but I wouldn't expect most of you to understand that.

[Goalatzio]

That date sounds familiar to me maybe its because i have an exam around then :D I might just trade in crackdown now. 3 weeks:(

[lee745]

Aint that the truth.



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