new maps 17th april [Archive]

quickshot89

30-03-2007, 04:27 PM

tahts right, new maps for both xbox1 and xbox 360 to buy via the halo2 content downloader, $4 for both of them, not bad, remakes of hang then high and derelict

bungie news link http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=certainaffinitymaps

Mazzy

30-03-2007, 04:47 PM

Wow thats a way to get people to buy them, remake hang em high.

i thought i read somewhere that the release of the new maps will be on xbox 360 only, to get people to buy the 360.

also i read somewhere that halo 3 beta would be at the same time as the new maps ?

Razor

30-03-2007, 04:50 PM

Not Bad you say!
They are plugging even more money out of a 2 and a half year old game.
It is a joke that people are going to have to cough up for new maps when they should be giving them away to get the users back not charge them so they can wipe their arses with $100 notes.

Pirate Balloon

30-03-2007, 04:56 PM

Now that's just taking the piss. Games like Counter-Strike let you download the new maps for free. And i should think so too.

carocat

30-03-2007, 04:58 PM

Hang Em High ftw! I used to love that map.

Will I pay money for it? I don't think so....

Razor

30-03-2007, 05:18 PM

Microsoft Game Studios and Bungie Studios today confirmed the upcoming release of two new, eagerly awaited downloadable maps for ?Halo? 2.? The maps will be available as premium downloadable content for Xbox? and Xbox 360? on April 17.

Fans of the original ?Halo? have long requested the addition of some of their favorite maps to the critically acclaimed multiplayer experience of ?Halo 2.? These re-creations, developed by Bungie and Certain Affinity Inc., are a perfect way to thank fans for their support as they surpass 800 million hours of ?Halo 2? gaming on Xbox LIVE?.

Makes me laugh.
"Thanks for spending so much time on our game why not let us sqeeze a few more quid from your pockets to pay for our crack addictions"
I say crack addiction because it is the only feasible reason behind charging for maps that most people already have on halo:ce.

DayC

30-03-2007, 06:03 PM

I have some spare MS points so i'll get them and post what they're like when they're released.

carocat

30-03-2007, 06:08 PM

I have some spare MS points so i'll get them and post what they're like when they're released.
Nope, won't work:
It's an original Xbox download, so there's no way to use MS points - and you WILL need an Xbox Live Gold account to download and play, since the original Xbox (even in BC mode) can't tell the difference between gold and silver. But you CAN use these on 360, just so we're clear. You just need to use a credit card for the purchase, instead of marketplace points.

Simm0ns

30-03-2007, 06:30 PM

I think these maps have been announced so people dont get pissed off waiting for the Beta. I think the Beta is gonna be like another month.

quickshot89

30-03-2007, 09:57 PM

ok, dont pay for the maps, ill enjoy the remake of hang them high without you, not that i ever play with you on halo

Bonzo

30-03-2007, 11:12 PM

These maps will proberly become free a couple of months after they get released, just like what they did with the other map packs.

quickshot89

31-03-2007, 09:50 AM

its $4 though, its hardly anything, and most of it goes to the new division of bungie probally

KONSPIRACY

31-03-2007, 04:40 PM

I distinctly remember Bungie saying that Hang Em High would never be recreated as it wouldnt be a balanced map for Halo2 with the new weapons. Obviously a ploy to get ppl to buy the new maps as every Halo fan was gutted when it wasnt included on Halo2...well I was anyway! :D

Mazzy

31-03-2007, 05:19 PM

me too, and sidewinder, now that would have been a good map for halo2.

Pie In The Sky

31-03-2007, 07:55 PM

It's unreasonable that they are charging people, and a very weak attempt to kick some life back into Halo2.
But having said that, as much as my morals tell me not to, I know I will be buying them. And I would bet lots of money that many many people will do the same. So I guess the method has worked.

KH Torrance

31-03-2007, 08:31 PM

Why should the maps be free of charge?
The guys at Certain Affinity didn't create these maps for the good of their health.

"So I guess the method has worked"
"The method" ... ? Like, um, commerce? Transactions (sales and purchases) having the objective of supplying commodities (goods and services).

That's a clever method... maybe it will catch on someday. ;-)

So many of you act like there's a big conspiracy against us Xbox gamers!
A product has been created, and you are being given the choice of purchasing it.
That is all.

Pie In The Sky

31-03-2007, 09:04 PM

No what I'm trying to get at is the fatc they feed us all this **** saying how they are giving something back to us as a community for all our dedication, then charging us $4.
Fair enough sell us products, thats the industry, but don't insult our intelligence by trying to mask it will all that happily ever after bull.
The method I was on about was to do with them trying to keep people interested in an otherwise dead game by bringing out new content (fair enough), but then charging us!
But fair play to them, it works.

quickshot89

31-03-2007, 09:08 PM

Pie In The Sky

31-03-2007, 09:13 PM

Do you honestly think the money you pay will go straight into the pockets of the guys who slaved for weeks to make those nice shiny new maps?
And I'm not starting arguments here btw lol, I'm congratulating these people on taking advantage of the inevitable need for the 'new thing' that all humans have.

Razor

31-03-2007, 09:45 PM

What makes them deserve money for revamping Halo 1 maps?
Im sure bungie could have found some modders that would have done that for free.

KH Torrance

31-03-2007, 10:33 PM

Bungie should have just given their development tools to a group of modders, on the promise that they'll make an awesome map? And be responsible for all the documentation and bug-fixing after the release? For free? :-| Sure, why not!

Makes no difference that the maps are Halo 1 remakes. Hang 'Em High is a 'fan favourite'. Many people would prefer HEH to a new map, anyway.
Like Frankie said. It's not exactly a quick "Save as..." job. The maps had to be built from the ground up, which is still work, which still deserves to be paid.

. . . To everyone: If the maps aren't worth $4 to you, just don't buy them!
None of you *have* to cough up for the new maps.

So, anyway...
They say Desolation is catering for the MLG scence. Another 'arena', basically. Kind of annoying, because I think it'll play too similar to Warlock, which I'm not a fan of. But we shall have to wait and see!
Tombstone should be fun though, because I always enjoyed Hang 'Em High, whatever the gametype. Since I probably won't play the Halo 3 beta, I'll enjoy *any* new Halo 2 content!
Yes, their method definitely worked. :-)

Simm0ns

01-04-2007, 12:43 PM

I cant believe some of you are complaining about having to pay for these maps.

1. They cost about 2 quid.

2. Bungie arent forcing you to buy them. Theyre even trying to change the MM playlists so people without the maps can still play then.

3. If you are considering buying these maps, you have been playing Halo 2 (even if on and off) for the best part of 3 years now, and youre complaining about having to spend 2 quid on it?

I was never expecting these maps to be free. Im just happy theyre so cheap.

You all have 360s and buy arcade games on the marketplace, yet you feel as though youre being ripped off by Bungie and Halo 2? Ill get 100 times more play time out of these 2 quid maps than I will out of the 20 pounds or whatever the **** Ive spent on all the shitty 360 arcade games.

KH Torrance

01-04-2007, 04:29 PM

Thank you! :D

You summed up my thoughts nicely, Simm0ns.

Roll on, April 17th...

Spindryer

17-04-2007, 06:29 PM

So what do u guys think of the new maps?

carocat

17-04-2007, 06:31 PM

Who downloaded them, what do you think?

Tombstone - ****ing huge! I got lost so many times on there!

Desolation - Not too sure if I like it, but then again I still get lost on it, so....

Xg Corkin

17-04-2007, 06:49 PM

Tombstone - Brilliant map and well worth the ?2 just for it.

Desolation - Don't really like it tbh.

Pie In The Sky

17-04-2007, 06:54 PM

I'm going to go download them now methinks...

Bonzo

17-04-2007, 06:59 PM

I think Desolation is ok for team slayer with battle rifles as default starting weapons with no oversheild (i think they spoil the map tbh). I think Tombstone is not that bad with a small party, but with a large party there aren't enough respawns and you end up respawning in the same place over and over again. Im sure i'll grow to like them though. Glad it has brought most of the Halo 2 community back, i know im staying :)

Spindryer

17-04-2007, 07:06 PM

Im not too impressed with them atm but i;ll holf judgement to see what there like in MM 4v4 etc...

Gaskin

17-04-2007, 10:28 PM

hang em high is an amazing map, still is.

Simm0ns

18-04-2007, 12:49 AM

Couldve been so much better.

Tombstone is ok. Pretty big and open but its quite fun to play. TS, CTF and Snipes all work decent on this map.

Derelict is way too big and open. If it was about the size of Midship then I think it would be a really good map. Pretty much any gametype works on it, but they just arent as good as they could have been.

Both maps give host too much of an advantage.

Gaskin

18-04-2007, 12:34 PM

lol I like the way you said tombstone instead of Hang Em High but Direlict instead of Desolation.

Hang Em High is now the best map on the game, easily. It was always the best map on Halo 1 and it's just such a brilliant map. It does have a lot of host advantage yes, but on a LAN it would be sick.

Simm0ns

18-04-2007, 01:58 PM

Yeah I get mixed up saying Derelict and Desolation alot. People wont know what Im onabout half the time.

I like Tombstone, even on Live. CTF, TS and Snipes are all fun to play on it. I think theyve captured the feel of HeH too which is good.

Dannyooo

18-04-2007, 05:38 PM

u guys may think im sad but ive already found a couple of superbounces dont get u anywhere fantastic but u can transfer from base to base quickly :D. I also very much like the idea there are boundries on the maps so u cant get out!

Gaskin

18-04-2007, 05:56 PM

There's a glitch in one of the corners which allows you not to be shot but you can shoot other people. GAY. And finding super bounces, ffs why?

Simm0ns

18-04-2007, 07:04 PM

I got showed that corner glitch earlier today, really really gay. They need to fix it before the maps are added into matchmaking.

Spindryer

18-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Worth the money..... well not really and personally i thought Blood Gulch was the best map for Halo CE but i only played the PC version so I'm unsure how the maps looked and played on the Xbox.

carocat

18-04-2007, 09:48 PM

http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=18399

http://halo.snaver.net/files/images/H2_Maps/Hidden_Pistol/index.html

Gaskin

18-04-2007, 09:50 PM

You can't pick up that pistol. Those images are edited.

KH Torrance

18-04-2007, 10:56 PM

The game has been modified so the H2 magnum pistol uses the old H1 pistol skin found in Tombstone, but the images themselves are genuine.

Some very annoying glitches in that map, though! I was sure my shots weren't registering in certain places when we played the snipers game on Tombstone. Now I know it wasn't just my imagination!

Gaskin

18-04-2007, 11:05 PM

That's what I meant. Not the actual image edited but you get the idea.

Bonzo

18-04-2007, 11:50 PM

Played a excellent custom game of CTF on Tombstone earlier with Liam. It was really good, i didn't get owned as much as i thought i would.

BlueHoopedMoose

19-04-2007, 06:46 AM

Worth the money..... well not really

Not worth two pounds?! Seriously? I mean, what else can you buy in this country for 2 quid at the moment? Not much... I think a pound a map is great value!

DayC

19-04-2007, 07:08 AM

And still I can't download these maps because Microsoft don't think about things before they do them.

BlueHoopedMoose

19-04-2007, 09:10 AM

And still I can't download these maps because Microsoft don't think about things before they do them.

Explain please - you can't just rant something like that and not explain why...

Chet Webley

19-04-2007, 09:35 AM

yes he can, he's a teenager - it's teh hormones, you know ;)

i thought 2 squids for the maps was a pretty good deal, too. either a quid for a map, or a quid for 4 bensons? easy choice.

interestingly, i logged into bungie.net on monday at aboot 10ish, and there were 6500ish players online in halo2, this morning at the same time, it was 65000ish online.

quickshot89

19-04-2007, 09:35 AM

And still I can't download these maps because Microsoft don't think about things before they do them.

if its saying purchase failed, use a debit card, fixed my problem

FiveOhOne

19-04-2007, 10:36 AM

if its saying purchase failed, use a debit card, fixed my problem

A debit card or a credit card?

If it was actually a debit card which kind? Anything other than one of those dodgy Visa Electron jobbies and I might be tempted..

quickshot89

19-04-2007, 10:41 AM

i used my tsb debit card, worked very easy, and now im ?2 for my LOTR on-line sub :( ow well, pay day next Thursday, subs are due on friday, shame

edit: mine is visa, but you can also use mastercard and american express on live

carocat

19-04-2007, 11:20 AM

Debit card? I thought Xbl accounts only work with credit cards....

Simm0ns

19-04-2007, 11:24 AM

DayC, look on Bungie.Net they have an article on fixing problems with downloading the new maps.

quickshot89

19-04-2007, 11:34 AM

Debit card? I thought Xbl accounts only work with credit cards....

nope, xbox 1 live didnt, but now the 360 allows them, because lots of people dont want to have credit cards when they are 16-24, which is the main age group apparently for gaming

kurosaki7

19-04-2007, 11:51 AM

Visa Electron jobbies

Why are they? I know plenty of people with them and they have no complaints : /

FiveOhOne

19-04-2007, 12:34 PM

It's just a Visa debit card, as oppose to a Visa credit card, kinda like the betamax of the debit card world since less places accept them - Switch/Solo/Maestro being the other card..

Edit:

Anyway, quicky, you got a link to any of this or are you hypothesizing again?

quickshot89

19-04-2007, 12:39 PM

wtf rain, everywhere accepts visa :S

link: http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12366

quote: Enter the credit card information for the card that you want to add. This can also be a debit or Visa (or similar) gift card, however, some restrictions may apply.

FiveOhOne

19-04-2007, 12:42 PM

Everywhere accepts Visa yes, Visa Electron no :p

Fair play on the map download though.. Might try my distinctly out of practice hands at them tonight infact..

Bonzo

19-04-2007, 12:46 PM

Everywhere accepts Visa yes, Visa Electron no :p
They are 2 separate cards

quickshot89

19-04-2007, 12:50 PM

Everywhere accepts Visa yes, Visa Electron no :p

Fair play on the map download though.. Might try my distinctly out of practice hands at them tonight infact..

come play with KH, seen as your an old old skooler KH member..... i think

kurosaki7

19-04-2007, 03:00 PM

Most places accept Visa Electron when it comes to online services, i know Xboxlive does as i used my parents card for it, its mostly international purchases where it falls short.

Me, im stuck with a maestro as i cannot trust myself with a credit card, what i dont have i cant use! Although i see alot more support for Maestro cards now.

DayC

19-04-2007, 03:06 PM

Looking now simmons

and to everyone else here's my post off H3F

Well I have a problem with the new Halo 2 maps and was wondering wether anyone had a fix for it. Basically what I do is Go to content download on halo 2 and attempt to download the new maps, the system then states that download purchases are not allowed on my xbox and I must enable them through the account settings menu. So I click B and it sends back to the dashboard where I find account settings and have to enter the last 4 digits of my credit card. After entering the 4 digits the system pops up an error message which states something similar to, "Due to technical difficulties you can not access this feature. Please try again later."

This is pissing me off because everyone on my list is playing new maps and I can barely get a middy ffa anymore. Someone help me!

carocat

19-04-2007, 03:14 PM

DayC

19-04-2007, 03:42 PM

I had that. Infact it took me a while to download them (http://carocat.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/the-new-halo-2-maps/). I managed to download them after a while, it just worked somehow.

Have you tried calling Xbox cust service? 0800 587 1102

Yep well it seems to be working for all except me.

Yeah I tried calling them and all I got was, "Please wait another day."