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MatchBot
20-03-2007, 11:50 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/xbox-360-black.jpg
Is the rumour of a new Xbox 360 console true then? It looks like it. Several sites have tonight revealed that there is indeed a new Xbox360 console coming soon. Dubbed the Xbox 360 Elite, it is set to include and HDMI port which allows better graphics and a 120GB Hard Disk which will definitely come in handy once we can also download TV shows and films.
Initially it looks like it is going to be a special edition only with a few hundred thousand consoles available with the console, controller and headset in black.
Some more information:
* The Elite will be limited quantities only; that may be as much or as little as a couple hundred thousand.
* The case, controller, and Live headset will all be black. It will have all new packaging.
* Elite will cost $479 [around GBP320], and will be a 3rd SKU; it will be sold alongside Premium and Core packs.
* Eventually Elite hardware (in white plastics) will take the role of the Xbox Premium. That is to say, after the Elite is launched and sold out, future Xbox Premiums will have 120GB / HDMI.
* We do not yet know exactly when 120GB / HDMI will become the standard for Premium, but it is loosely estimated to be late summer or fall.
* Elite models run cooler than normal 360s, but they are not yet confirmed to have 65nm chips.
* Prices may remain the same with the 120GB / HDMI hardware upgrade in the Premium Xbox, but we may still see a price cut on the line when 65nm chips start shipping.
* The HD DVD drive will not be internal or bundled -- Microsoft never did or nor does not currently have plans to put an HD DVD drive in the 360.
* There are no current plans to integrate WiFi into the Elite or future Premiums (although that can always change).
Is this something you may be interested in?
Renegade
21-03-2007, 09:31 AM
It's something I am interested in, ONLY if they refund my Premium or knock the difference off an elite. It's so scummy to be coming out with something like this more than a year after launch - this isn't just a slight revamp, it's an absolute upgrade that most 360 owners are going to miss out on.
I want HDMI more than the disk space, but my god I'm not buying another 360 to do it. Rebate me Microsoft!
Azure
21-03-2007, 10:14 AM
Mmmm pleasure you can't measure.
To be fair it is MS, you can't look at their history and expect them to get it right on the first 2 attempts.
My advice to anyone is to steer clear form upgrading/rebating anything until it is 100% confirmed to have moved to a 65nm processing routine for the units.
Renegade
21-03-2007, 10:49 AM
I'm not interested in chip spec, I just want the HDMI :(
I fancy the 120GB HDD, but if it is 69.99 pounds for a 20GB HDD how much will a new 120GB on cost?????
KONSPIRACY
21-03-2007, 01:21 PM
If my 360 dies and these are available at the time then I would definitely consider purchasing it. I know its all about the specs etc; but Black > White! :D
On a side note...someone actually told me the other day that "white is the new black" :eek:
DinnyHoon
21-03-2007, 01:39 PM
I'm rather concerned about this. Will Microsoft offer me a deal on my current box, or will I have to shell out ?350 to own one of these? It's a horrible move by Microsoft, as not only do they show that they don't give a crap about their customers, but they're just trying to get level with the PS3.
KONSPIRACY
21-03-2007, 01:54 PM
Well its been indicated that the Elites would be ltd edition so it would be classed as a new tier of console (ie above Premium) so I doubt anyone would be entitled to any form of compensation. However, there may be a case if ppl bought a Premium 360 just before the "upgrades" went on general release. Obviously until its all confirmed then its best treat it as speculation.
Hasn't this been posted before? :|
KONSPIRACY
21-03-2007, 02:09 PM
Hasn't this been posted before? :|
Yeah it has...but this is another more upto date rumour! :D
M$ know full well that their main marketing tool are the ppl...why spend millions on advertising when everyone does it for them for free?! Genius!
Yeah it has...but this is another more upto date rumour! :D
M$ know full well that their main marketing tool are the ppl...why spend millions on advertising when everyone does it for them for free?! Genius!
Oh right, thanks. It sounds quite good, I wont be buying one though :eek:
FiveOhOne
21-03-2007, 04:49 PM
To get one as compensation Bill Gates would have had to personally turn up to your house and interfere with your pets/children in the wrong way.
As far as white being the new black, a lot of new stuff that was originally white is getting re-released in black - iPods, MacBooks and there's rumors of a new black iMac - with all the Apple hardware traditionally being white, it could be that Black is in fact the new Black. Chris is right. Black is certainly sexier.
As for a 120gb HDD, well thats cool, but I won't be picking one up anytime soon, and will they phase out the 20gb, or just lower the prices in the same manner as the flash memory modules?
Spindryer
21-03-2007, 08:36 PM
Once you go black you never go back..... ;)
HDMI would be a selling point to me added with a bigger HD = Why the **** did'nt the 360 have this as a base standard when it was realised...
BIG D 04
22-03-2007, 02:08 AM
I don't know what's the problem and why one earth would you be entitled to a rebate, you got what you paid for. You never paid for a HDMI and 120Gb HDD, maybe you would if it was out but it wasn't. It would be like me requesting an Upgrade on my Samsung TV because they upgraded my Model.
It's also something that's not uncommon to the Console World, the Playstation 2 had Upgrades aswell as the Nintendo DS.
If you want it buy it and trade in your old one, stop being a sore loser. Personally I think they should of took the opportunity to bundle a HD-DVD and all that IPTV Features then that way you could (if you want) have a very good Home Entertainment Hub.
Spindryer
22-03-2007, 10:08 AM
Well i think you can kiss my ass and so too can MS. My point being that HDMI and a half decent sized HD SHOULD of been standard from the off for a next generation console.
Don't you think adding on all things (HD-DVD,120 HD, true HD out put with HDMI) is a piss take for people like us who were told by MS that the 360 (on its realise) was true next generation gaming and we will experience true HD gaming for the first time. Well its seems to be that statement can only be true if you buy all the "added extras"
Personally i don't have the funds to keep up with MS and i can understand that for people who have mum and dad buy it all for them that you maybe cant grasp the fact that this is a bit of a piss take. But i think it is and unless i lose my sense of the value of money they can just whistle for anymore of my not so hard earned money :P
Retro
22-03-2007, 11:28 AM
Not bothered about this unless the picture quality is that great from a HMDI rather than a VGa, whci him sure if any differecne is not worthy of that much.
What makes me chuckle is the fact that everyone complains about the 360 not having HMDI, the hardrive is to small, no HD drive etc...but surley with these things would increase a console package by quite abit, id imaginge it to be close to or more than a PS3 price. And these people who complain about this will also complain that the PS3 is far to expensive.
I see it like this the PS3 is an all inclusive package. You get everything you need and can access everything it has to other, but it comes at the price.
The 360 however you get everything you need for the basics, but if you are already living in the HD livestyle then you will have to simply upgrade.
The xbox gives you that choice. Sony dont.
We seem to be living in a very strange time at the moment, we are living in a time were we are seeing radical changes in the way we recive and obtain our mediums. The trainsaction is only half way there, people are unsure about whats going to prevail, and whats going to fail, whevether is issues with HD tvs, downloadable content, or blue ray or HD DVD. The path is not clear like it was a few years ago with the last gen war where everything was basically set out staright, DVD players were the thing been around for a while, Standard TVs were errrr standard and the internet was not nearly accessible as now.
Renegade
22-03-2007, 12:52 PM
Big D - I'm not saying MS should send me an elite for free. I'm not stupid. I do however want them to accept a return of my premium 360, and I pay for the difference. I don't mind paying extra for the bits I havn't got, but I won't pay extra for the things I already have.
Yes, I could trade in the 360 and buy an elite. However, you know as well as I do that a game shop will give about ?150 for a premium 360 now.
Your TV comparison is wrong, as a new model means an upgrade to everything. The elite only upgrades three significant areas.
Use this example - if you bought a ?20,000 car as standard, and afterwards you wanted to put electric windows, sat nav, and a sound system in, would you go and buy another car or simply have it upgraded?
Spindryer
22-03-2007, 01:29 PM
In a decent car all them would come as standard.
Azure
22-03-2007, 01:34 PM
It goes against everything a console is supposed to be.
My opinion as of now is that Sony are just stupid, and that MS are lame. Both companies need a kick in the arse, and I did ridicule the Wii and now I formally stand here and eat my hat.
Nintendo's machine might not be for me, but at least they had one battle plan and not 5.
Renegade
22-03-2007, 02:06 PM
In a decent car all them would come as standard.
Don't be a smartass it just pisses people off.
Innes
22-03-2007, 04:55 PM
ITS JUST BEEN ANNOUNCED - IT WILL COME TO THE US
http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/games/xbox/black_xbox_360_confirmed
FiveOhOne
22-03-2007, 05:45 PM
Been announced by who? T3, they've not even got a mention of a source on there? Microsoft's Extranet has no information what-so-ever about the elite, which means they (T3) are probably jumping on the engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/20/xbox-360-elite-new-black-limited-edition-xbox-with-hdmi-and-120gb-drive/
Which seems to have mooched its way around the internet this week and where this thread came from in the first place..
Thats not to say its not going to happen, it clearly is, but MS have confirmed *nothing* as of yet..
Mazzy
22-03-2007, 06:03 PM
As i was saying in pgr this week, M$ dont comment on speculation and rumours. like everything else, wait until M$ say yes or no.
BIG D 04
22-03-2007, 07:43 PM
Personally i don't have the funds to keep up with MS
You don't have to what exactly will you be missing out on?
-Larger Hard Drive Space with can be brought separately
-HDMI which isn't need for 720p Output?
I don't see the problem the Premium and the Elite will have different costs, you didn't pay for an Elite and get a Premium you got what you paid for now be happy. If you want the Elite with it's minor extras go out and get it and trade in your Premium.
I personally would consider buying it if it included the extra's I talked about but remember you brought this for playing games and an extra console model isn't going to change that it isn't going to be a case of have and have not's as this doesn't effect your gaming in any way.
The addition of HDMI is no more substantial than the addition of the Brightness Control on the Nintendo DS, you get a slightly Better picture but it's not worth spending all that money again for it though.
@ renegadeds
Yea this isn't the same as getting a bit of Sat Nav in a Car, for HDMI it's a core component that's needed to change in the Xbox 360 and that's the graphical output, So to be honest it's more like getting a New Engine put in not a Bit of Sat Nav or Electric Windows although you could compare that with the HD DVD Drive Add On and the Larger Hard Drive (which will be sold separately).
I think people are just using it to hate on Microsoft, the market is fast moving and when the Xbox 360 launched hardly anyone had a HDTV let alone a Spare HDMI Port to plug it into. So in my view they done the right thing they held off charging us extra for somethig we didn't need and instead launched when it was ready.
Spindryer
22-03-2007, 09:11 PM
I think people are just using it to hate on Microsoft, the market is fast moving and when the Xbox 360 launched hardly anyone had a HDTV let alone a Spare HDMI Port to plug it into. So in my view they done the right thing they held off charging us extra for somethig we didn't need and instead launched when it was ready.
No i don't hate M$ in fact i respect them for giving me Halo 1 and 2, and tell me how it was fine for M$ to go out and make us all buy HD TV's that didn't have to have HDMI and now your "happy" with the fact that all those people who didn't need HDMI for there 360 will now have to go out and buy another HD TV to enjoy the only real HD output. I really wished i had your attitude towards money, life would be so much easier without thinking about it.
The addition of HDMI is no more substantial than the addition of the Brightness Control on the Nintendo DS, you get a slightly Better picture but it's not worth spending all that money again for it though.
But i think it is and unless i lose my sense of the value of money they can just whistle for anymore of my not so hard earned money :P
I'm glad we agree on something at least.
Renegade
22-03-2007, 10:16 PM
They havn't done the right thing by holding off. I'm not an advocate of the PS3 technique but at least it's future proof. The HDDVD player being seperate was an absolutely fantastic idea - I bought it when I got my HDTV and if I hadn't got a HDTV yet I wouldn't have bought it yet. However, we will ALL upgrade to HDTV at some point, so now as well as having that in the future it means shelling out all over again for a 360 to take full advantage of it. Yes, the HDD can be bought seperately. However - the 20gb HDD is 60 quid. Do the maths and work out a 120gb HDD - 60x6 = YEAH RIGHT.
DinnyHoon
22-03-2007, 11:20 PM
Hold on... a Black 7th-gen console with HDMI and a superior HDD, that the consumers are angry about?
http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/PS3.jpg
BIG D 04
23-03-2007, 01:31 AM
They havn't done the right thing by holding off. I'm not an advocate of the PS3 technique but at least it's future proof.
Technology to a degree can never be future proof as you don't know what the Future of Technology holds, so pumping money in to a empty stream isn't going to get you any return.
You say the Playstation 3 is future proof, what happens if Blu-Ray doesn't take off, you have a Lose right there, what is HDMI doesn't take off because apart from the slight improvement the only difference is that it's digital and can allow more ways for companies to restrict your content and impose DRM via ICT and HDCP.
In my view you aren't missing out on anything and I'm glad you agree with me Spindryer, as know you won't have to go out and buy a New Xbox 360 because the one you have is valid enough to do what you want.
Also might be worth noting that Microsoft said "you will get the best out of your games if you play on a HDTV set" if they forced you to go HD they would of said "the xbox 360 can only be played on a HD set". You don't have to go HD, and if you do you don't have to use HDMI to get 1080p (which at the moment the TVs are few and far between and cost an arm and a leg).
Personally I believe you are making something out of nothing, people will buy whatever they think suits there needs. The fact you never got a Xbox 360 with HDMi, HD-DVD, etc etc is not there fault, it's natural progression. Look how much HDTV has taken off since the Xbox 360 Launched, you would be hard find going into a Store and seeing anything else but HDTV's that was most certainly not the case 2 years ago.
So in the end what would you all like them to do, be able to predict the future and be able to inform you of what connections are going to be used 1, 2 or 3 Years from now so they can charge you now for it. Hell if downloading of Marketplace and In General continues to be going at this rate we are going to need alot bigger Hard Drives (you know just in case) so what do you want 1TB or 2TB's?
Azure
23-03-2007, 10:34 AM
I see your point big man but...
You say the Playstation 3 is future proof, what happens if Blu-Ray doesn't take off
Unlikely. I have been watching the industry like a hawk for 2 years.
what is HDMI doesn't take off because apart from the slight improvement the only difference is that it's digital and can allow more ways for companies to restrict your content and impose DRM via ICT and HDCP.
HDMI is here to stay, that much is obvious. Also NOT going DVI/HDMI is going to bring you the DRM hassle. Albeit in 2012.
You don't have to go HD, and if you do you don't have to use HDMI to get 1080p (which at the moment the TVs are few and far between and cost an arm and a leg).
You have to use component for the 360 which can output 1080p over component, but there are very very few televisions that will actually accept a 1080p feed over component, also the idea that "1080p" tvs are few and far between isnt exactly right either, they are here and have been for a while and are no longer ridiculously expensive, however they will all accept HDMI which links back to my previous point.
It isn't particularly *anyones fault, MS just chose a **** time for the consumers [at least over this subject] to launch their console. On the other hand their early launch has 12 gauged sony and let the screaming hordes who wanted a next gen system now, have one. Let us not forget in addition that the PS3 was delayed due to the lack of HDMI standardisation as well, 360 wasnt ever going to launch with HDMI, and although offering it now is better than nothing, I can't help but feel that having 3 SKUs on the market for what is a console is a nasty sign and beta test of things to come.
Renegade
23-03-2007, 12:36 PM
Azure - the 360 can't output 1080p over component. It can output 1080p via VGA (which is what I'm using).
Big D - Blu Ray will be the generation winner, I have no doubt about it. I have a HD DVD player and love it, but I don't doubt BD will win. I will have both. 1080p TVs are pretty commonplace and getting much cheaper now - HDMI is here to stay too. With a 720p output the benefit of HDMI is still very obvious. Sky HD for example looks absolutely razor sharp in 720p via HDMI, whereas I found it slightly fuzzy any other way.
You are right, people will buy whatever suits their needs. I'm not arguing that - the problem I have is that the additions of HDMI and a larger HDD is EXACTLY what I want. So what am I to do now? I'm not buying another one to play the same games, yet I know I'm going to be playing them at a slightly inferior standard by not doing so. Whilst Microsofts strategy benefits those that are yet to adopt (and will help steal some PS3 thunder), it's a kick in the nuts to the ones that purchased a Premium already.
Azure
23-03-2007, 12:42 PM
1080p will go over component through the 360 my chum, it just isnt supported by the ATSC so practically no TV sets out there will recognise it
I agree with you though, i am one of the people who this directly affects, well would have if I still played mine and the only thing I cand oa bout it is to sell and buy up, it really is a raw deal from some people's POV.
You have to think of the people who bought all theirs in and around Xmas as well without knowledge that this thing was coming up round the corner. Harsh.
Renegade
23-03-2007, 01:26 PM
The 360 upscales to 1080p through component AFAIK...
Azure
23-03-2007, 06:37 PM
Oh yeah it does, with current games and dvds it upscales those using it's ana chip.
But it can now natively output 1080p, handily though ms are saying that it is unlikely any "regular" games will be targetting 1080p, reckon itll be for XBLA for starters.
BH WhiteHawk
23-03-2007, 08:20 PM
It's something I am interested in, ONLY if they refund my Premium or knock the difference off an elite. It's so scummy to be coming out with something like this more than a year after launch - this isn't just a slight revamp, it's an absolute upgrade that most 360 owners are going to miss out on.
I want HDMI more than the disk space, but my god I'm not buying another 360 to do it. Rebate me Microsoft!
It is an absolute rip off! Is ms so scared of sonys bbq that they need to release a new 360?
Spindryer
23-03-2007, 09:35 PM
I never got an invite to this barbeque (bbq) that Sony where holding ?? Anyone else get a chance to go?
UK Vamp
25-03-2007, 09:40 AM
Could you not just put your own black case on the 360???
Pie In The Sky
25-03-2007, 10:03 AM
It's the larger hard drive and HDMI port people are more interested in than the colour.
xXMFx Massacre
25-03-2007, 10:23 AM
i want one if they do come out i will complain and try 2 blag 1
BlueHoopedMoose
25-03-2007, 11:09 AM
i want one if they do come out i will complain and try 2 blag 1
let us know how you get on with that... i predict much laughter and use of the words "chance" and "not a"
1080p will go over component through the 360 my chum, it just isnt supported by the ATSC so practically no TV sets out there will recognise it
Most newer 1080p sets finally understand 1080p via component now, it seems to be the older sets and the budget brands of today (which are the old sets reboxed).
The hard drive upgrade is a bit annoying, however it's not a major loss, mine is full of demos that I don't play anyway so can easily delete when the time comes, if the Marketplace comes to the UK then maybe I'll consider buying the 120Gb but since the price is likely to be near the HD-DVD Drive Addon's price whats the point in using the Marketplace for HD movies?
As for HDMI, whoop-de-do, no need for it at the moment and I would be amazed if there will be a need for it within the next 3-4 years, there are way too many HD sets out there without HDMI, or with 1.0/1 which doesn't have the same support as the newer 1.2/3 formats so the movie companies would be daft to activate the flag any time soon and by the time they do HD-DVDs will either be dead or they will be mainstream enough that HD sets are the standard and HD-DVD players are down at ?30-50 so getting a compatible system wont cost an arm and a leg like it does now.
DinnyHoon
28-03-2007, 07:29 AM
For all the skeptics.. it's now on Xbox.com. (http://www.xbox.com:80/en-US/hardware/xbox360elite/default.htm?WText.camp=TS3-Xbox360Elite&WText.campSrc=Home)
KH Torrance
28-03-2007, 07:33 AM
It better not be the build-up to some elaborate April-fools joke! XD
I really want one. :-|
But I'm guessing the US will get them first, and there's only so long I can wait to get a 360, what with Worms now out, and Guitar Hero II and the Halo 3 beta on the way.
I need a release date, godammit!
Has anyone found (an official) one yet?
EDIT: Apparently it's expected to be April 29th in the US.
Does anyone know if it's possible to have a US one shipped over? Or will there be compatibility issues?
If you ship one over you'll be restricted to playing US copies of all games, US DVDs as well. More hassle than it's worth for a colour change and a useless video port.
carocat
28-03-2007, 10:02 AM
It's not gonna be over here for a while. That's according to Boris Schneider-Johne, a German MS employee. Linkage (http://www.dreisechzig.net/wp/archives/824)
What he says basically:
Even though my American colleagues are already mentioning EU prices, the Elite won't be in Europe for a while. Exact dates are unclear, we're just discussing that in Madrid. Same with the Black controller and the 120 GB HDD.
Bonzo
28-03-2007, 12:00 PM
Even though my American colleagues are already mentioning EU prices, the Elite won't be in Europe for a while. Exact dates are unclear, we're just discussing that in Madrid. Same with the Black controller and the 120 GB HDD.
He could be saying that to stop people who havent bought a XB360 or are considering buying another one to go out and buy the white one instead of waiting for the black one.
You know what some Americans are like with their big mouths :p
FiveOhOne
28-03-2007, 12:09 PM
He's german though ;)
Black controller though.. Damn tooting I'll grab me one of those! Don't have to worry about the white one getting some damn grubby now :D
carocat
28-03-2007, 12:11 PM
You know what some Americans are like with their big mouths :p
Boris Schneider is German and generally [even though I can't stand him] spot on with a lot of things.
Bonzo
28-03-2007, 12:13 PM
Even though my American colleagues are already mentioning EU prices, the Elite won't be in Europe for a while.
I was talking about his american colleagues not germans :D
Mazzy
28-03-2007, 03:52 PM
This has been confirmed.
xXMFx Massacre
28-03-2007, 03:56 PM
what a con 10 million people buy there test xbox and then thay bring out a beast i will get 1 4 free
Mazzy
28-03-2007, 05:29 PM
im not getting one, i dont havd HD and im never buying a film that i can only watch on the xbox 360. also i dont need the extra HDD space. 12 gigs is enough for me.
KH Torrance
28-03-2007, 07:47 PM
Damn. :(
I was sure I'd heard something about most of the games being 'region-free', or whatever it is.
Getting the Elite wouldn't just be a 'colour-change' for me, because I don't already have a 360. Now way I'd fork out that kind of money just for a new paint job!
But the HDMI port wouldn't be useless for me, because the television I'm getting has a HDMI port, so... *-)
Still, if I have to wait for the European version, I think I'll pass anyway.
God knows when it'll arrive here, but it's almost certainly longer than I'm happy to wait.
Azure
28-03-2007, 07:56 PM
Is your screen 1080P? You really won't get much from HDMI over component at 720 tbh [Your mileage may vary depending on TV].
KH Torrance
28-03-2007, 08:07 PM
Oh, yeah, it's 1366 x 768 and 720p.
So HDMI won't make much difference unless my TV is a lot more awesome that I can afford! :-D
The way some people in this topic are *****ing about any non-HDMI output being "inferior", you'd think HDMI was up there with the second coming of Jesus.
(Um, not getting into religion. Just going with the Easter theme, before I get told off.)
Anyways, your comment makes me feel slightly better about having tp settle for a regular white 360! Thanks XD
The Meanmachine
28-03-2007, 08:48 PM
I need a release date, godammit!
Has anyone found (an official) one yet?
HMV have been in talks with Ms and have said it will be late summer before it hits Europe.
On the note of importing and regions, you will be able to, but will have to import games etc as well. The only time its worth importing is if you are just importing games etc for a UK 360, as Asian 360 games are of the same region as far as im aware. Only problem is, they will get it when we get it.
carocat
28-03-2007, 09:44 PM
Journalist for the Mercury News and all around Xbox guru, Dean Takahashi, recently raised an important question. The question: who really needs HDMI? Of course, Takahashi is referring to the Xbox 360 Elite and its inclusion of an HDMI interface. Who better to answer the question than Kasey Holman, senior director of Corporate Marketing, HDMI Licensing, LLC. She couldn't be biased at all, right? Obvious sarcasm aside, Holman made the following arguments for the greatness of HDMI.
Consumers should expect to see a number of benefits from integrating HDMI:
1. HDMI provides the best video quality as there are no loss conversions involved, unlike component. The all digital signal will create sharper pictures without the ghosting or softness found through component. Smaller, high contrast details like text display this most prominently.
2. HDMI provides superior digital audio (it supports up to 8 channels at 192kHz, uncompressed).
3. HDMI is the future standard of High Definition content. Within a few years, content producers may activate a usage restraint token that won't allow High Definition playback over unprotected interfaces (i.e. component).
4. Through an HDMI connection, the Xbox 360 will automatically detect the best settings for each television to which it is connected. In other words, users will no longer have to manually adjust resolutions and aspect ratios. These adjustments will be made automatically according to the TV's specifications.
5. HDMI sends both audio and video through the same cable, eliminating the need for separate cables. Of course, users of optical audio will beg to differ, but it does simplify things like System Link play.
HDMI esxplanation from 360Fanboy (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03/28/dean-asks-what-makes-hdmi-so-great/).
And I couldn't resist also posting this image that they included in their post:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.xbox360fanboy.com/media/2007/03/im-in-ur-hdmi.jpg
:D
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You dont need HDMI people!
Save the socket for something worthwhile, like a HD-DVD player.... or a HD STB.
The Meanmachine
29-03-2007, 05:27 PM
Save the socket for something worthwhile, like a HD-DVD player.... or a HD STB.
Or just get a splitter so you can plug both in lol
OB1theGeordie
29-03-2007, 06:59 PM
I've heard its out in November for the UK.
?350. I've heard the hard drive alone for us original xbox owners will be ?90.
I'm also hearingHD DVD is gonna lose out in the movie stakes, blu ray's gonna win.
I never use console for movies anyway.
Mazzy
29-03-2007, 07:07 PM
ha ! 90 quid for the new hdd? its 70 quid for the current one. and thats 20, the 120 gig is going to be something like 170.
I never use consoles for movies either, so the only thing i want to know is how much the new hdd is gonna cost, if a 20gb is 69.99!!!, though i suppose 90 isn't to bad.
no need for HMDI just yet though as most 1080p tv's are just to expensive, plus 720p gaming is just fine. i'm gonna wait a year or two till the price comes down
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